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30 August 2006 @ 07:52 am
Ship and Let Ship (or...not?)  
Okay not sure how to start this... guess I will start from the beginning. I post at Gateworld.net's forum. Very recently I've been having some trouble with a Daniel/Vala shipper. She hopped onto one of the threads that I sometimes visit (an anti-Daniel/Vala thread if I remember right) and announced that because some people (of which I am one) had the audacity to post in the anti-Vala thread, she was putting us on Ignore. Okay, fine, whatever. You don't need to announce it, but I don't care. For the record, this thread is for complaints and misgivings about the character and I personally wasn't on there screaming "OMG I HATE HATE HATE Vala! She is a $%&@#$$!! And anyone who likes her is a @#%& @!#$&!!" Anyway, some time later she posts in the anti-Daniel/Vala thread again and tells someone else that they should leave the thread because it's total crap. I really wanted to say something to her, but she obviously wouldn't see it since I'm on "Ignore" (allegedly anyway), so I told the person she addressed to tell her that if she thinks the thread is total crap, why does she visit? It looks like she's just looking for trouble. That person agreed with me and kindly asked her to knock it off.

I guess the D/V shipper did NOT have me on Ignore, because suddenly the next day I see a thread called something like "Daniel/Vala is NOT a threat to the Sam/Daniel friendship." I think it was obvious that she was addressing me with it, because I had brought up in the anti-D/V thread that I thought a relationship between those two could possibly threaten Daniel's friendships with the others, especially Teal'c and Sam. Anyway her first post did not reflect the title because she says that "some people" (aka me...and maybe a few others) see the potential (and "hopeful") romantic relationship between Daniel and Vala as a threat to Sam and Daniel's friendship. She then launches into the old "Sam and Daniel are brother and sister, and besides, Sam loves Jack" thing and then finishes with something like "why won't you let two people who are just made for each other but don't realize it yet, enjoy their nice relationship?"

Um, did that really make sense? What does the romance angle have to do with friendship? The thing about Sam and Daniel being brother and sister, and Sam loving Jack, falls under ROMANCE, not friendship, which is what I was talking about. I don't care if she is a S/J shipper as well and sees Sam and Daniel as brother and sister. The point is that they are friends as well, and I was talking about the friendship being threatened. Geez. A couple of people jumped on the bandwagon and agreed with her, but a few people posted opinions similar to mine (yeah I know, I shoulda just stayed out of it but I felt she was addressing me and I couldn't let it slide. I did stress that everyone is entitled to their own opinions though).

I thought that was it, but no. I checked my reputation and saw that she'd given me some green rep and said something like "spreading the D/V love :) Hopefully you will open your eyes to this wonderful relationship." Maybe I am paranoid, but it seems an awful lot like she is trying to convert me and I don't like that. And that's where the title of this entry comes in. I always believe in Ship (or not) and Let Ship. I'm not going to go out and convert people who ship differently from me or not at all. Everyone has their own opinions and I respect that. I live with it. She needs to learn that I am not a fan of the D/V ship and needs to respect that.

I just can't stand people like that. I think they give Ship (and the fandom in general) a bad name when they froth at the mouth and demand that everyone else follow them. Sorry, not cool. Luckily I haven't had any problems with this person so far today but I'm not holding my breath. I don't want to stop posting on GW because of her, because I still do enjoy it. I just wish people could be more tolerant of other opinions sometimes. *sigh*
Current Mood: annoyedannoyed
Christine (aka) Pineapple >^..^<chris4short on August 30th, 2006 09:27 am (UTC)
I had seen that thread and popped over. I saw that she went into the whole S/D brother/sister thing... and well, you know me, i dropped right out of the thread. I'm sorry that she did that. So not right. For the record, I am totally there with ya. I may go and see what's going on over at GW. makes me frustrated when people don't realize that a) it's a show. not real. b) everyone does not see/like the same things.

Hallowed is the D/V ship.... how else are they taking on water? (hehehe... i know, lame...)
jessm78jessm78 on August 30th, 2006 10:52 am (UTC)
Re: ((hug))
Yeah - I probably would have just dropped out of it or ignored it if it didn't sound like she was pretty much calling me out over it. :p Thanks for the support :D

I agree, there seem to be people who are just a bit too obsessed with it. Sometimes I feel like I want to say "Calm down and repeat after me: It's just a show. It's just a show. It's just a show..." etc. etc. I've run into people like that before on other forums... they are mainly Farscape and CB fans who followed her into SG and just love the idea of D/V ship and hate/feel compelled to convert anyone who doesn't.

LOL that's a good comparison actually! *snicker*
Suzotchkasuzotchka1 on August 30th, 2006 09:32 am (UTC)
Isn't it sad that some people think that their opinion is the only correct one? It's exactly like you said, they have no tolerance of others. If you're in the ANTI thread, they should not be posting positive comments. You can always 'report the post'. It's anonymous and lets you give a reason why you are reporting it. I've used it before. Another option is to put HER on ignore. This way you won't be able to read her posts.

Unfortunately, there are a lot of children (mentally speaking) on GW. If people can't get along on a stupid forum, it really gives me no hope for the world.

jessm78jessm78 on August 30th, 2006 10:46 am (UTC)
I just might do that if she keeps it up. I've always wondered about why people do that... if I see a thread with a title I don't like I'm not going to stick my nose in there and bug people.

Thanks for the hugs :D For the most part the people I've met on GW have been very nice - but there are those people who act like children who want their own way...
Suzotchkasuzotchka1 on August 30th, 2006 09:35 am (UTC)
PS - That person who you are talking about, was warned already by the mods in another thread I was in. So I'm sure they are watching that person closely.
jessm78jessm78 on August 30th, 2006 10:47 am (UTC)
Thanks for letting me know. I did have a talk with one of the mods about her and she even told me that she has problems with people who disagree with her ....and she whines about it a lot. So I guess it is good to know they are watching her.
(Anonymous) on August 30th, 2006 10:56 am (UTC)
You should check out the Season 10 thread for SG-1. In it is a "Did Cam/Vala kill Stargate". That's where this person was warned before. Check it out. It's funny to see people get all worked up over TV characters. LOL
Suzotchkasuzotchka1 on August 30th, 2006 10:58 am (UTC)
that was from me - sorry! Forgot to sign in. LOL
Christine (aka) Pineapple >^..^<chris4short on August 30th, 2006 02:01 pm (UTC)
I'm sure if nothing else it's a good read. Some people just don't know when to open mouth insert foot. *sigh* And when you get as big a fan base as SG, you are bound to have a lot of people who need to learn that...
jessm78jessm78 on August 30th, 2006 03:24 pm (UTC)
Yup I might just check it out for laughs. I agree, I think you're bound to find people who take it a little too seriously. I ran into someone from OS (our stargate) who was acting like she knew Vala personally. Another Farscape/CB/Vala fan who replied to a post I made about hoping the Daniel/Vala stuff doesn't take over the whole show. She sent me a PM/message/whatever that was something like "What the frell is wrong with you people?? Vala does not deserve Daniel's friendship? How could you be so cruel?? Idiots." She got banned though - had caused trouble with other people too... come to think of it I think I saw her at GW also...not very often and not for quite a while luckily.
Christine (aka) Pineapple >^..^<chris4short on August 30th, 2006 03:40 pm (UTC)
*sigh* i remember that... see those are the things that make other just wish we didn't like the same show. then we could say we don't know what they are talking about. but alas, it's a TV show, they are makebeieve characters and we can't take life seriously.

Seriously people... got life? i know i am sometimes over board with my love for the show, but am not about to slap it into others faces...