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08 December 2008 @ 09:30 am
Arrrrggghhh....  
Okay, is there anyone on here who is an LJ cut expert? I am going insane here trying to edit my post about the con from last night.  It covered Saturday's events and was very long and it looks like I pissed a few people off.

I did stick cuts in it, but that was for season 4 spoilers.  I know there are people on my flist who have not seen season 4 yet.  I did it to be courteous to them.  But apparently you cannot do a cut within a cut.  Right?  I just tried to do that and now some of my previous cuts have disappeared.  Nothing is working.

I did Saturday all in one post because I didn't want to have a gazillion posts dedicated to this con.  This is already part 6. 

So if any of you are experts, I would love to know just how you can do a cut behind a cut.  How would you do a post like this?  Should I just stick all the Q&A's behind cuts and just put "some season 4 spoilers" warning?  If I did, people who haven't seen season 4 would miss out on stuff that ISN'T spoilers. They wouldn't click on it because they know it contains spoilers somewhere.  I guess that is all I can do, though.

But seriously, I didn't mean to piss anyone off.  I've been on LJ over 2 years and I'm still not an expert on everything there is to know about it.  Perhaps you would like to point me to some "LJ Netiquette" site where I can educate myself better?  I really don't know the best way to do a post like this.  Wanting to stick long bits of info behind a cut, but having various info behind a cut already because it contains spoilers. 

If anyone defriends me because of that long post I guess there is nothing I can do.  But before you defriend me, maybe you could give me some tips on entries like this? And in a nice way, not an overly sarcastic one (not that I'm saying anyone would, but I've run into people like this before and they make me think I've committed some heinous crime... I'm already too hard on myself)?

I give up.

ETA: Sorry if I sounded snarkier or more sarcastic than usual in this post.  I'm in one of those probably-best-to-stay-offline-today moods. :P
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Mara, I will fuck with your shitgirlluvsguns on December 8th, 2008 11:40 am (UTC)
It's much easier if you use the HTML edit instead, you have more control over it.

Do you know how to use that?
jessm78: Jared Padalecki: Scream Awards 2008jessm78 on December 8th, 2008 11:53 am (UTC)
Yeah, that's the thing I've been using. I couldn't do a cut within a cut with that. Every time I tried it, it would just remove a cut somewhere else. Maybe it hates my browser or something. :P

Someone gave me the suggestion to change the spoiler stuff to white text so people would just have to highlight it to read. I went back and tried that. Hopefully it'll work okay.
minion to the evil plot bunnies: Christmas Treedeviantfantasy on December 8th, 2008 11:47 am (UTC)
Far as I know you can't cut within a cut. However, a good way to get around the spoiler problem is put the spoiler on a white background using white font. People will have to hightlight it in order to see it.

If it were me, I would just throw up the warning. It's kind of idiotic of people to think they aren't going to talk about the current season at a con. But that's just my opinion. ;-)

Edited at 2008-12-08 02:48 pm (UTC)
jessm78: Supernatural Xmasjessm78 on December 8th, 2008 11:55 am (UTC)
Yeah, I didn't think you could do that. Someone just told me about that in the other post, so I went and tried it. Seems to be working okay.

LOL, I know what you mean. ;) There is at least one person on my flist who hasn't seen the current season, but she's been reading my report. Although I think she's mainly here for the Jensen, so maybe I have nothing to worry about.
morjanamorjana on December 8th, 2008 12:05 pm (UTC)
If I have a long post, I generally only put the first paragraph above the lj-cut, and the remainder of the post in its entirety within the lj-cut. It makes it short on the friends page, and it's a heck of a lot easier.

Just a suggestion!

Good luck -- I'm no expert on lj, which is why I like the simpler the better formatting.

jessm78: cold lazarusjessm78 on December 8th, 2008 12:39 pm (UTC)
Thanks!

I usually do that, but I had already put the spoilers behind lj-cuts. I didn't think you could put a cut behind a cut. But someone recommended putting the spoilers in white text against a white background. That seemed to solve the problem.
morjanamorjana on December 8th, 2008 12:44 pm (UTC)
Oh...that's a good idea too! Thanks, I learned something something new!

:)
jessm78: Sethjessm78 on December 8th, 2008 01:58 pm (UTC)
No problem! :)
Angeladjfavorite on December 8th, 2008 12:18 pm (UTC)
Sounds like others have given you some good suggestions. I don't have any other suggestions, regarding the cuts.

Now, don't fret about the 'defriending'. If people defriend you for something as petty as a too long of post, then they weren't really a friend in the first place. I saw the long post in question. I'm not a Supernatural fan, so all I did was scrolled right past it, once I realized that was the topic of the post. So I had to scroll a little more to get to the next post, so what. It didn't bother me one bit.
jessm78: Fire and Waterjessm78 on December 8th, 2008 12:41 pm (UTC)
I did go back and edit the spoilers to put them in white text, then stuck the whole thing behind a cut. Seems to do the job.

Yeah, that's a good point. I got a little carried away there with the snark. I'm glad it didn't bother you though. I did edit the post so hopefully it won't cause anymore problems.
Debbie: Christmas Snowmandesigngeek on December 8th, 2008 12:59 pm (UTC)
Hi Jess - I wandered in here by mistake when clicking through a friend's page, so sorry for the intrusion! Just wanted to confirm that everyone is right - you can't lj-cut within an lj-cut.

When I have spoilers in my own posts I write SPOILERS ALERT in my headline for the utterly clueless. That way if they read on it's their own fault. And, as far as I know, there's no unwritten law that says you HAVE to warn people of spoilers. This is your BLOG, not a forum. If someone should de-friend you over that they are just being childish and IMO, you are better off without such whiners.

Just my 2 cents. *blushes* Happy Christmas!
jessm78: Christmas Wreathjessm78 on December 8th, 2008 02:04 pm (UTC)
Hey Seshat! No worries for the intrusion! It's nice to see another fellow ex-GW alumnus here :)

Thanks, I thought that was the case. I think I'll be more prudent about spoiler warnings in future posts. I'll also use that white-on-white text trick to hide spoilers in info that I already have behind a cut.

Luckily no one has defriended me for it yet, but I did seem to upset a few people when a minor *possible* spoiler made its way into one of my episode reviews. You're right - if someone defriends me for something so silly, I'm better off for it.

Thanks for the advice, and a Happy Christmas to you too! :)
deej1957deej1957 on December 8th, 2008 02:23 pm (UTC)
I've never been able to do cuts within cuts or cuts within a longer post or anything fancy :-(
jessm78: Sam smiling in Salvationjessm78 on December 8th, 2008 05:59 pm (UTC)
For some reason I thought it could be done, but I just found out that you can't. I've found away around it, though ... just changing the text color of my spoilers.
MegTDJ: Jared Wasn't Me - mata090680meg_tdj on December 8th, 2008 08:58 pm (UTC)
I don't think you needed a cut within a cut. If you'd just put the pics behind a cut, that would have saved a lot of space on people's f-lists as well as making them easier to load. Or there's always spoiler space or changing the colour of the text so people have to highlight for spoilers.
jessm78: Jared Padalecki: TV Guide Photoshootjessm78 on December 9th, 2008 10:19 am (UTC)
Yeah, and I found out that you can't do a cut within a cut. I did change the text to white for the spoilers, so I solved that problem. I probably could have included less pics, too (I added a link where I have all the pics archived).