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08 April 2010 @ 10:42 pm
SPN #5x17 99 Problems (episode review)  
Sinus/tooth pain is getting worse, but hopefully I'm somewhat coherent here, lol.....

(and as a warning, I'm a bit cynical/pessimistic.. and probably not 100% complimentary of Dean, but I really tried not to bash him in this because I still try to be fair to both boys. I love 'em, even when they piss me off royally, lol)

Things just look bleaker and bleaker, and we all know what is inevitable now........ *sobs*

Looks like our boys had a pretty nasty tangle with something as they speed away. They get ambushed by a bunch of demons but who comes to the rescue?

A group of ordinary folks, led by... *drumroll*..... Michael Shanks, aka Dr. Daniel Jackson! And dayum, he was looking fine. *slurps* Oh, I forgot to mention his character's name is Rob. He tells them "Those were demons and this is the Apocalypse, so buckle up." *fans self* And our boys seem surprised that an ordinary guy is telling them this. He's wary of them at first, but they try to convince him and the others that they're on the same team.

I spied Cindy Sampson's name in the credits. Lisa's back, eh?

Rob and the others take Sam and Dean to a small church. The pastor's daughter Leah knows about the boys from angels. She's apparently a prophet.

Okay, so I wonder if it's a coincidence that this episode takes place in Blue Earth, Minnesota. Isn't that where Pastor Jim was from, and where Meg killed him?

Wow, the talk between the boys really shows where their heads are at. Dean at such a low point, so defeatist. He tells Sam that everyone's going to die, but these people aren't freaking out about it. They're heading to the exits in an orderly fashion, and is that such a bad thing. Sam isn't happy that the angels are making these people do their bidding, and he also tells Dean "Who says they're all going to die? Whatever happened to us saving people?" Awwww. :/

Leah seems to get another message on where the demons are. Is it me or is there something fishy about her? Something I really can't trust... can't believe she's actually a prophet. They attack the demons and Rob's son, Dylan, wants to ride with our boys. But before he can, a demon kills him. Dean looks pretty distraught by this.

They have a sort of memorial service in the church for Dylan. Leah appears to be having fits as if she's getting another message and tells them that Dylan is coming back. She says a bunch of stuff about Judgment Day and how there will be Paradise on Earth if they all follow the angels. Okay, yeah, I really don't trust her...

As they're leaving, Sam comments about how strict the town is, that there's no drinking, no premarital sex, etc.... that they've pretty much outlawed 90% of Dean's personality. LOL.

Dean goes to see Leah and asks if she's on the level about Paradise. She tells him there will be a prize fight and it will get bad, but they will win and the planet will be handed over to the chosen. It will be wonderful and he'll be with people he loves. Dean tells her it must be nice being chosen. She tells him that he's chosen. He retorts that it's more like cursed. *nods* :( She tells him it must be hard, being the chosen vessel and having no hope.

Sam talks to Paul the bartender, the guy he saw in church with a flask. He doesn't exactly go along with the flock and tells Sam he's not a believer. He asks Sam "what about you?" Sam tells him "I believe. But I'm pretty sure God stopped caring a long time ago." Yep, after what Joshua told them last episode, of course he would believe that.

Sam returns to the motel room and tells Dean in a snarky way that it's "past curfew." He mentions how everything is cut off in this town, like the internet and it's like they're in some kind of compound. Dean doesn't seem to care, which amazes Sam. He can't believe Dean wants to give up. He tells Dean "You can't do this to me." He's basically counting on Dean - he's got one thing keeping him going and he can't do this alone. And Dean leaves. And my heart breaks. :(

Leah tells her father the pastor that the angels are angry, and say that some people aren't listening to their commandments. Rob asks who.

A drunken Cas appears to Sam. Wow. Something about getting Sam's phone message, but doesn't like the grating sound of his voice. Sam asks if he's drunk and he answers "No! ...... Yes." He found a liquor store and drank it. *snerk* He tells Sam that Leah is not a prophet. Ha, I knew it.

However Leah convinces the townspeople that Paul is not with them and must be killed, so Rob's wife shoots him. Uh oh.'

Turns out Leah is the "whore of Babylon" who rises at this time and can do things like read minds. Her role is to condemn as many souls as possible. The only way to kill her is with a stake made from a Cypress tree from Babylon. He says none of them can kill her, only a servant of Heaven. Looks like that's supposed to be the pastor.

Yep. Leah's telling the people that they have to find all the sinners and kill them. Dad doesn't like the way she's talking and wants her to stop. She tells him to let her go or the next sinner will be him. Cas brings the pastor to their motel room. He of course can't kill her because it's her daughter. The boys tell him it's not her, it's the thing that killed her, and unless he does it a lot of people will die.

Ah, a Dean/Cas heart to heart. Dean brings up the "deadbeat Dad" thing and says he knows all about it. Cas asks how he manages, and Dean pretty much gives him a non-answer: "on a good day you have to kill a whore."

The townspeople start having second thoughts about this when Leah makes them lock kids in the room to kill with the rest of the people. But just as Rob is about to light the kerosene, the boys and the pastor bust in. Leah is powerful and knocks them all down (and as an aside... whoa, Jared belted Michael a good one *g*). Dean actually ends up killing her. Um........ am I missing something? I thought Cas said he couldn't do it..... 

As they leave Sam asks Dean: "Are you going to do something stupid? Like 'Michael' stupid?" Dean pretty much avoids it. *sigh* I think we know what the answer is. When they get back to the motel room to patch up the pastor, Dean leaves the room and tells Sam he's just getting clean bandages. Yeah, right. He speeds away and Sam runs out, yelling after him.

Now how did I know Dean was going to do that?

Oh, here's where Lisa finally comes in. He tells her that whenever he pictures himself happy, it's with her and Ben. Um... I don't even know what to say. I guess the whole brotherly love thing (and I'm not talking Wincest necessarily) is out the window. Kinda feeling disappointed. :/ I like Lisa and I liked Dean's interaction with Ben back in TKAA, but I guess I wasn't expecting Dean to do that. I mean yeah, he's at such a low point now and doesn't think he can count on Sam, but still.....  Anyway, he tells her that things are going to get bad over the next few days, but he's doing to make sure that she and Ben are okay.


Sorry for the yelling LOL, but come on, I could see it coming a mile away. Everything is just so inevitable now. He basically abandoned Sam at the end, and like Sam said, he was counting on Dean. He was the one thing keeping him going.

So is this all leading up to both boys saying yes, then? I think it's pretty much a given that Dean is saying yes to Michael, but will Sam be strong enough to keep from saying yes to Lucifer? Everything that Future!Dean told our Dean in The End seems to be coming true, doesn't it? On further contemplation, what will this mean for season 6? If this season ends with both boys saying yes, will we only see them as Michael and Lucifer next season? I honestly can't see that happening. What if it ends up with one brother killing the other? I can't see it being just Sam or just Dean next season. Kripke always said it wouldn't be Supernatural without the two boys. So I have to wonder just what is going to happen. The only thing I'll say is that I hate seeing the boys apart. Their relationship is at the heart of the show, so I really hope they don't stay apart. Maybe it's pollyanna-ish of me, but this episode left me feeling kind of bleak. I just hope that someone has a magic trick up their sleeve somehow and it doesn't end all bad. But again... pollyanna-ish... *sigh*

On the up side, I thought Michael Shanks did an awesome job. And as I said earlier, he was looking pretty fine :D

So next week is the big 100th episode. And I guess we can expect it to be big. I just hope it doesn't break me as much as this one did. Then again, that's what I said last week, so...
Current Mood: soresore
deej1957: WTF jangly jewelsdeej1957 on April 8th, 2010 10:50 pm (UTC)
OMG, What a crock of crap. Skipping this one, too. What the hell happened to this show?

I can't even read fanfic anymore. How sad is that. The writers have completely destroyed this show for me. There's nothing they can do to redeem Dean for me, I've never seen such a pitiful, whiny, SELFISH, BRAT of a man in my life.

So. I'm glad Michael was good!
jessm78: AHBLjessm78 on April 8th, 2010 10:54 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I was really disappointed about that. It's like this whole thing is inevitable and Dean's behavior really got to me. At this point I almost don't care, he's going to say yes to Michael, guaranteed. I'm really worried about Sam now.

You sound just like I did when I was watching season 10 of SG-1. The only thing keeping me into that show was watching the earlier seasons on DVD. I've found myself watching seasons 1 and 2 of this show more often than the others.

Michael was very good! I think I may even make a separate picspam of his scenes. And there will still be the puppy picspam, of course.

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Melcoltshot_1 on April 8th, 2010 11:08 pm (UTC)
I loved this episode. I don't see Dean as being whiny -- he's at the end of his rope and doing what he thinks he has to -- he plans on saying yes to Michael, that's clear, but whether or not it actually comes to pass -- well, I'll bet you it doesn't. Maybe in some temporary way -- like Sam was Lucifer in The End -- but for real? Nope. Betcha a dollar -- never happens.

TKAA was one of my favorite S3 episodes. In my personal SN world, Ben is Dean's son. I really loved this continuity - Dean's happy dream of Lisa in DALDOM tied in to the apocolypse.
And poor Puppy's face when Dean drove away -- awesome. Can't wait for the Puppy Picspam of that.

I hope you feel better -- tooth pain seriously sucks.
jessm78jessm78 on April 8th, 2010 11:20 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I did have to take into account what a low point he's at now. Ooh, that's a good point. It is obvious he plans on saying yes to Michael, but we still don't know if it will actually happen.

I really enjoyed Dean and Ben together. One of my flisters wrote a fanfic in which Dean and Lisa get together, and he becomes Ben's stepfather. It was a sort of alternate reality story in which Dean never sells his soul to bring Sam back in AHBL. Sam is still involved in all this, but it shows Dean trying to adapt to a new life (although he still gets involved in hunting). It was an interesting story. If you're interested, I'll hook ya up with a link. :)

I can't wait to make that picspam. Poor puppy, I just wanted to hug him so tightly in that scene.

Thanks. I can't tell if it's my tooth or sinuses. Either way I'm calling the doctor tomorrow. Don't want to be too miserable for the weekend.

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deej1957deej1957 on April 9th, 2010 12:21 am (UTC)
I really liked the way the actor who played Young John did Michael. He was amazing.
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Specialagentldy: evilsamanddeanspecialagentldy on April 9th, 2010 01:10 am (UTC)
I was thinking maybe Sam would say yes to Lucifer in order to make a bargin of sparing Dean's life?

Dean should have told Sam what happened in the future. :-P
ckllckll on April 9th, 2010 05:29 am (UTC)
I think totally the same :(
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boaz_priestlyboaz_priestly on April 9th, 2010 02:01 am (UTC)
It looks like fandom is dividing and taking sides. Maybe that is what Kripke was going for? I don't know, but I hate Kripke, not our boys. I feel cheated and it seems to me that he is selling the fans short. An entire season leading to...this? Please.
Pensolapenamesolen on April 9th, 2010 05:40 am (UTC)
Not to start an argument, but I think that was what he id; used the whole season to slowly make Dean give up. I think from episode one to nine, he did not really care, because so far, he had managed to fight against what people wanted from him and still save people. However, in episode ten, AAH, when Jo and Ellen died for the sake of stopping the Apocalypse, which they failed in, Dean started to fall. If some don't like the pairing JoxDean, don't think of it as that, but rather that Dean failed to save the world his own way when some wery close to him died for it.

After that, it just went down. In episode eleven, with the insanyty at the asylum, then episode thirteen, TSRTS, with the meeting of Micheal, then episode fourteen, MBV, with Famine telling Dean that he's dead inside, then episode fifteen, DMDWP, when he knows that as long as Sam keeps saying no, people close to them might die, so he should maybe become Micheal and stop Lucifer before it actually happens (this might be what he meant by protecting Lisa and Bob). And then, finally, when he thougth that God, the only one beside Michael that could stop Lucifer, could come and help, God tells them to stop bothering him. So when he sees what happens when he says no, I think I understand him. I of course don't want him to say yes, but it is a nice plot twist (which manyof us foresaw XD).

And as hinted in The End, Sam likely said yes to Lucifer because Dean wasn't in his life anymore. I agree that it is easier for Sam to say no to Lucifer, because that would result in the end. So Sam would say no as long as he has someone to rely on, to be with. That someone is Dean, and so their roles change; at the first two seconds, Dean was the one who had to tell Sam that he would never go evil and would never do something like that. Now Sam is the one who has to help Dean.
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CaptainLoncaptainlon on April 9th, 2010 04:19 am (UTC)
Pastor Jim's church looked bigger then this though? XD

Hah I LOVED Cas' voicemail and Sam's face hehe

Aww Sam was a little drunk huh? I loved his babble about curfew. Stupid Dean is all about himself. Ahhh

Like I've said before, Mike looked a lot different then I thought he would. he was cool.
jessm78: Supernatural: Sam in BDBRjessm78 on April 9th, 2010 03:43 pm (UTC)
Haha, yep Jim's was definitely bigger than that! I thought it was interesting that it was the same town though :)

Hehe, that was funny :D

Poor Sammy! *hugs the drunken puppy* I was so sad for him at the end.

He was! I wasn't expecting him to look this way either.
ckllckll on April 9th, 2010 05:29 am (UTC)
I thought that too about Minesota and Pastor Jim.
i wish Michael would have a bigger role in the episode.

No to Dean's yes and he kinda pissed me off a little in this episode (and probably next week's too) and he's so close to say it unless Sam makes a sacrifice.
jessm78: AHBLjessm78 on April 9th, 2010 05:39 pm (UTC)
For some reason I thought Michael's role was going to be even smaller than what we saw. But it would have been nicer to see more of him, always :D

I know how you feel, hon. I'm so worried about what is going to happen to both boys. We need them as themselves in season 6.
trinaarontrinaaron on April 9th, 2010 11:17 am (UTC)
Got here from Dean_Sam, and just have to say that twice this season Dean has told two people (Sam and Bobby) that he needed them and couldn't do this alone, and both times the people he said it to stood by him. Sam says it to Dean and his response is to hop in his car and speed off, with Sam giving chase.
jessm78: Supernatural: Sam & Dean (ELAC final scejessm78 on April 9th, 2010 07:50 pm (UTC)
I noticed that too. :(
Kristin: Jared » 2003 » Herb Ritts™kristypadalecki on April 9th, 2010 06:51 pm (UTC)
I know exactly how you feel, hon. I have very similar thoughts about this episode. I did enjoy seeing Michael thought, he looked quite yummy! ♥

Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
jessm78: Supernatural: Jared S2 Promo (smile)jessm78 on April 9th, 2010 07:50 pm (UTC)
I'm glad I'm not alone. :) Michael did look just wonderful, didn't he? :D

My pleasure!
jenni_fromtexas: Sammy frownjenni_fromtexas on April 11th, 2010 10:49 am (UTC)
Michael did a great job! I wish he'd had a larger role, but oh well.

I was wondering about the significance of the town too; I like continuity, but I was bothered when the boys failed to mention Pastor Jim. Hmph.

I too am not liking Dean giving up. I know he's been through a lot - he and Sam have both been through the wringer, though (and I also really don't like that Dean's only acknowledging his own pain and not Sam's...) and even the most war weary soldiers can find the strength for one last stand. That's what I'm hoping for. I'm hoping that Dean's weakness at the moment is temporary and that he returns to Sam's side and they end up fighting together. And I also certainly hope that Castiel and Bobby are both given a purpose. The boys need able-bodied allies, not depressed slugs.

I really liked seeing Lisa again. I was hoping she would finally admit that Ben was Dean's...but I guess it would be too much to ask for, because then Ben would be at risk of being targeted for vesseldom. Oh, the angst, but at least then Dean would have a valid reason to say yes to the archangel, to keep his kid safe.

I don't blame you for feeling bleak. I'm not impressed with the writing lately; I think the show's been seriously off-track, especially pertaining to the boys' relationship. We've already seen them go Cain and Abel on each other at the end of last season (not to the point of killing each other but bad enough). It's time now, I think, for them to stand together. *sighs with you*