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15 April 2010 @ 10:45 pm
SPN #5x18 Point of No Return (episode review)  
I am actually pretty... surprised about this ep....

So it basically comes down to Zachariah being a big liar. But I pretty much knew that.

It opens with Zach in a bar, drinking.Annoyed about the turn of events. But his "boss" shows up and puts Zach back in the game.

Dean packing his things and writing a letter to put into a box for Bobby... *sniffle* :( Sam finds him and still can't believe this is happening. That Dean is just going to walk out. He says "how could you do that?" Dean counters that all Sam's done is run away. Sam comes back with "But I was wrong - every single time I did!!" Wooo yeah, Sammy, you tell him. :) He says Bobby is working on something but of course can't tell Dean and Dean thinks he's got nothing. Sam says he has to stop Dean, and Dean says that he can try but he's not all hopped up on demon blood this time. Sam concedes that, but says he's got help. Dean turns to find ... Cas. Who does the "laying on of finger" thingy to make Dean pass out.

This next scene was heartbreaking too. I really felt for Bobby. Dean is all snarky about the whole thing. Bobby asks him what happened to him. Dean insists that nuclear is their only option, Michael can ice the devil and save a lot of people. Bobby says not all of them and they have to find something else. Dean brings up the whole guilt thing and says that Lucifer isn't stopped and he could have done something about it, it would be all on him. Bobby tells him "you can't give up, son."

Dean: "You are not my father. And you aint in my shoes."  OUCH. The look on Bobby's face. The look on Sam's face. OUCH.

Bobby takes out his gun and a bullet, telling Dean it's the round he meant to put through his skull... every day he looks at it and says maybe today is the day he'll do it. But he doesn't, you know why? "BECAUSE I PROMISED YOU I WOULDN'T GIVE UP!!" Yeah, Bobby!

Suddenly Cas is walking around outside in a wooded area when he gets in a fight with some other angels, whom he ices with the angel killing knife. He finds a body loosely buried there and it turns out to be ... Adam!

He brings Adam to Bobby's. The look on Sam and Dean's faces when they see him.... :o  Cas revives Adam who says that the angels warned him about Sam and Dean. He asks for Zachariah. Ooh, Zach has gotten to him...

And apparently Zach has tried to convince Adam that he was chosen to be Michael's sword or vessel. Dean can't believe it but Cas says it's possible since Adam is John's bloodline and Sam's brother. Maybe he had moved on from Dean. It's not perfect but possible, and maybe they think Dean is too weak. Sam can't believe the angels have a Plan B after all the crap about destiny. Nope, neither can I, and it would appear that Zach is duping Adam. Sam tells him the angels are lying to him but Adam doesn't want to believe it. Sam says that there's another way, and that they're blood. Adam is belligerent and says he has no right to say that, that they're blood but not family. To him, his mom was his family. Sam asks him for a little more time.

So the tables are turned and now they have Dean in the panic room. He doesn't want Adam taking a bullet for him. He's committed to being the vessel apparently. He tells Sam he's tired (wow, where have we heard that before? *snerk*), he's tired of fighting who he's supposed to be. Poor Sammy, he really wants them to stick together.

Dean says he doesn't believe. In Sam.  OUCH. Poor Sam. :(

Dean insists Lucifer will wear him to the prom. The look on Sam's face hurts when he says "don't say that to me." Dean is insistent that he has to be the one to fight Satan.

Later Cas goes to check on Dean in the panic room, but Dean uses his own trick (the sigil) on him to escape!

So we see a similar thing happen to Adam as what happened to Dean when Cas appeared to him in a dream (in The Rapture). Only Zach appears to him on a playground where he thinks he's waiting for his mom. Adam tells Zach he's with Sam and Dean. Zach insists he can't trust them, that they're "co-dependent on each other." LOL... ummm, did he say "neurotically co-dependent" or "erotically co-dependent"? I probably misheard somehow...  But anyway, Zach says they'd rather save each other than the planet, and insists that they're NOT his family.

Uh oh, looks like Dean's trying to say Yes to Michael, and asks some guy preaching about the apocalypse (who says the angels talk to him) to call Michael down. But who shows up again but Cas! Heh, liked how he told the guy "you pray too loud." Cas opens up a major can of whoop-ass on Dean, telling him "I rebelled for this? So you could surrender to them??" Yeah, Cas! Dean totally needed that. He tells him "I did everything for you and this is what you give to me?" Once he's finished he zaps Dean, back to the panic room I guess.

Apparently Zach found Adam while in the dream, even though Cas had carved those symbols into his ribs. He's in the "green room" and turns out it was all a trick. Adam isn't the chosen one and they still care about Dean. Adam realizes Zach lied and this was all part of a plan to get to Sam and Dean since their blind spot is family. Adam doesn't want to give in but he makes him hemorrhage.

Dean is back in the panic room after the beatdown by Cas and tells Sam "don't piss off the nerd angels." Heh. Sam tells Dean that Adam is gone, that he was taken and where he is there are a bunch of angels surrounding it. They're going to go after him and he's going to take Dean with him. Dean questions whether this is a good idea, because he'll just say Yes. Sam says he won't. Aww Sammy with the trust there. Bless him. :) Dean tells him if the tables were turned, he would let Sam rot in the panic room (ouch again....). Sam comes back with "I guess I'm not that smart." Dean asks why he's doing this. Sam: "Because you're still my big brother." Awwwwwwww. :(

Sam, Dean and Cas end up in Van Nuys, California, where Adam is apparently being held. There are about 5 angels in there and Cas decides to take them on himself. He doesn't have the faith in Dean that Sam does. Ooh. He stabs one of them with the angel knife, and wards off the rest with a sigil he carved into his own chest! Whoa.

Dean enters the green room and finds Adam, who tells him it's a trap. Zach shows up and Sam tries to kill him, but Zach gets the better of him and makes both Adam AND Sam hemorrhage. Nooo!

Oh shit, Dean said yes. It was obvious he couldn't bear to see Sam and Adam suffer, but still, he said yes. Oh, crap. And the look on Sam's face when he hears it.... *sniffle*

But then Dean gives Sam a little wink and tells Zach there are a few conditions involving those he cares about and that Michael can't have Dean until he turns Zach to ashes. He then takes the angel knife and kills Zach. And his eyes glow white! Whoa......

There's a white glow in the room and as Zach dies, Dean and Sam escape. Adam is overtaken by the white glow and is locked in the room. He can't get out and the boys can't get him out (Dean tries the knob but he burns his hand on it... hmmm).

Adam's gone. Okay, where did he go....?

So that's it? And Dean isn't acting very Michael-like...

The final scene with Dean and Sam in the car... I have to say it gave me a little smile. They're both wondering what happened to Adam and Cas. Sam says that he saw Dean's eyes and thought he was saying yes.

Dean actually says that he let Sam down. Sam says he didn't. Dean tells him that when he'd look at Sam he always saw this snot-nosed kid... maybe that was a big brother thing. But he says that's not him anymore. He tells Sam that if he has so much faith in him, Dean can return the favor. Awwww. It's about time. :) And then he says, "screw destiny. We'll take the fight to them, our way." Sam thinks it sounds good. The look on his face... the little, almost grateful, smile..........

Can I get an "awwww?" Well, for the time being, anyway?

I think this episode calmed some of my fears for now at least. But there still seems to be some unanswered questions. Where did Cas go? What happened to Adam? Did Michael take him away somewhere?

And is it really this easy? Did Dean really avoid becoming Michael's vessel? If he did, I'm not really sure if it ends right there. I wouldn't doubt that this will come up again before the season ends. Is Adam a distraction for Michael until he finds Dean and tries to take him over?

And finally, is this what Sam needs to keep from saying Yes to Lucifer? The fact that Dean's trust in him seems to be at least partially restored, or is something else going to happen that will make him get closer to it? I really hope not but the finale is still 3 episodes away, so... I guess I'm still a little nervous.

So I guess according to that "someone will die, someone will make a big sacrifice, and someone will play a new role" spoiler for this episode... Zach was the one who died, but I'm still confused about who plays the new role and who made the big sacrifice. Was it Adam, or will he actually play a new role now, depending on where he is at this point? And did Cas make the sacrifice, depending on what happened to him? I'm still in the dark here. But I will say that despite the way Dean was acting and the things he said, I'm glad that he seems to have some faith restored in Sam. At least for now.
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tarienemrys: Sam Dean bro-lovetarienemrys on April 16th, 2010 03:23 am (UTC)
ohh I guess Mickey took Adam away... I just hope he won't die :) I kinda like him. And also I hope Adam would not think that Dean didn't come to his help.. that would sort of you know break the trust they had :(
I liked the episode :) Definitely so much better than last two.. but for me "Song remains the Same" is best :D

Edited at 2010-04-16 05:46 pm (UTC)
jessm78: Hollywood Babylonjessm78 on April 16th, 2010 02:03 pm (UTC)
Me too. I wonder if Adam will be Michael's vessel now? I liked him too. :)

Me too, I definitely liked it better than the last two.
piratelf: piratelf8piratelf on April 16th, 2010 03:35 am (UTC)
I think the next time we see Adam, Michael will be inhabiting him. And he'll try to guilt Dean into saying yes to save Adam.
jessm78: Supernatural: Jared S2 Promo (smile)jessm78 on April 16th, 2010 02:02 pm (UTC)
That's my guess, too. He'll probably try to use Adam to get through to Dean and convince him to say yes.

I just hope that Sam doesn't say yes to Lucifer. One of my friends had a theory that he would, and it just makes my head hurt, lol
babycin: brothersbabycin on April 16th, 2010 04:03 am (UTC)
I really loved this episode!
For me the onw who will play a new role is Adam, maybe he'll paly defitintely Michael.
jessm78: AHBLjessm78 on April 16th, 2010 02:02 pm (UTC)
Me too, hon!

Oh, I think you're right about that.
anastdeananastdean on April 16th, 2010 07:29 am (UTC)
Amazing amazing episode wasn't it?
I have no words and do believe there will be resolution and brothers love found in the end.
At least I hope so.
jessm78: Jared Padalecki: too cute (Chicon 09)jessm78 on April 16th, 2010 02:04 pm (UTC)
It was awesome :D

I share your hope, hon. Things seem better, let's hope that they will stay that way.
ckllckll on April 16th, 2010 07:49 am (UTC)
I'm also confused about the sacrifice but i read two spoilers and even that makes me hard to answer.
jessm78jessm78 on April 16th, 2010 02:00 pm (UTC)
I'm with you, hon. I guess we will find out in the next eps.
jenni_fromtexas: Sammy frownjenni_fromtexas on April 16th, 2010 01:46 pm (UTC)
There was so much cruelty on Dean's part I almost couldn't watch the whole episode last night. I was really aggravated. I was glad that no one took his crap, though - not Bobby, not Sam, and certainly not Castiel. I was digging Adam, too. The boy's definitely a Winchester. ;) I am wondering too what's going to become of him.

I'm not entirely sure that Dean was sincere at the end. I think no matter how much he denies it he'll always see the demon blood on Sam's face and on some level will think that Sam will fail to resist Lucifer. It's sad, really, because Sam has proved over and over that he's stronger than that.

jessm78jessm78 on April 16th, 2010 01:59 pm (UTC)
It really bothered me what he was saying, but like you I was glad no one took it from him. I cheered when Bobby told him off, and even when Castiel went at him.

I'd love to know what happens to Adam. He was pretty awesome.

I'm not sure what to make of it either, but I think it's at least a start - especially the way Dean said that Sam's not a snot-nosed little kid anymore, that he's grown into a man who can hold his own. Unfortunately Dean is a guy of few words, so I wouldn't doubt that's all we're going to get out of him (unless we luck out in the future). I guess I'm just being cautiously optimistic. We'll have to see what the next few episodes hold.
werty30werty30 on April 16th, 2010 02:36 pm (UTC)
I think Cas made a sacrifice (went on a suicidal mission) and Adam will play a new role of Michael. Anyway, I`m so happy that Dean has faith in his brother again!
jessm78jessm78 on April 16th, 2010 02:46 pm (UTC)
That makes sense, I think you're right.

I am too!
Kristin: S2 » SamDean » Promokristypadalecki on April 16th, 2010 06:07 pm (UTC)
I really loved this episode! Is it possible to love Sammy even more now? ♥

I liked Adam, but I honestly would not really like for him to be a regular or recurring character. The dynamic should stay the same with Sam & Dean only.
jessm78: Supernatural: Jared S2 Promo (smile)jessm78 on April 18th, 2010 04:20 pm (UTC)
I think it very well might be, because I am too! :D

Yeah, I don't know if I'd want to see him stick around as a regular either. I just want to get back to the brotherly bond of Sam and Dean.
Kristin: Spn » Sam/Dean » S2 Promokristypadalecki on April 18th, 2010 05:56 pm (UTC)
I guess we'll have to wait and see if he ended up being Michael's vessel, or if he was killed again!
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jessm78: Jared Padalecki: too cute (Chicon 09)jessm78 on April 18th, 2010 04:46 pm (UTC)
It was quite an episode :D

I was so happy to see that!

There weren't any references to it being a big 100, but it was quite good as a season 5 ep. :)

I think you could be right... or maybe Cas made the sacrifice when he disappeared, and Adam will play a new role (if we see him again before the season is over) as Michael? And I would be more than happy to see the ultimate cute Sam :D

Saw it, loved it!!!
Pensola: Lovedpenamesolen on April 18th, 2010 04:12 am (UTC)
I still don't understand... Uriel said that the only thing that can kill an angel is another angel. So maybe the knives are special-designed, but they never mention that it has to be a special knife, only that the killer must be an angel. Unless I've missed an episode, of course.

I think this episode was very strong, and I agree with the roles; Zachariah was the one who died, Castiel made the great sacrifice, and Adam played a new role. I think that he will be used as a temporally vessel in the future, since he has Winchester blood and can thus be used. And i find it quite funny yet sad how the tables have turned. Before, Sam was the one not trusted and kept in a basement while Castiel did not like him and trusted only Dean; now Dean is the mistrusted one and kept in the basement.

But I'm glad the mini-plot "Dean loses hope" is over(?), because I thought it was really sad how he lost all his hope and just wanted to give up. Not to mention that he practically told Sam that he was too weak to say no to Lucifer. On the other hand, since he said those things to him, maybe that would make him even more determined not to say yes where Dean did, as to show him in his face that he is stronger.
jessm78jessm78 on April 18th, 2010 04:19 pm (UTC)
I still don't understand that either. That's the only explanation I can come up with - that it's the knife, but I don't remember them mentioning that either.

I agree. It seems to me that Adam will at least be a temporary vessel in the future, and I wonder if Michael will use him to get Dean to say yes eventually. Remember when Lucifer said to Castiel that Nick was "wearing a bit thin", like he was deteriorating, in Abandon All Hope? I wonder if the same thing will happen with Adam and he will use that to get Dean to give in. I think too much obviously, lol, but just a thought that came to me. I got my boyfriend caught up in this season this weekend, and we watched that episode so it's fresh in my mind.

I see the role reversals, too. It is quite interesting.

Yeah, I think that for now it seems that there's been a little hope instilled into Dean. I guess Sam's faith in him helped restore that. It was sad seeing him at rock bottom like that. I really do like to think that now Sam will be even more determined to not give in to Lucifer. *crosses fingers*
Pensolapenamesolen on April 22nd, 2010 05:08 am (UTC)

I didn't think of that, but you have a point. Although Michael seemed to be fairly okay (even revived Sam, knowing that he is Lucifer's true vessel), but he seemed like a jerk, anyway, so it wouldn't surprise me. Not to mention that, unlike Lucifer, Michael sends the angels to have Dean say yes, while Lucifer has stated that when they meet, Sam will say yes regardless of what he has done. Note that only the demon in episode 12 did something to make Sam Lucifer's vessel, and that was only because a moron was inside :P

But I am a little disappointed that there haven't been many episodes about Sam's dilemma. I like I wrote above, it might be because Lucifer is convinced that Sam will say yes anyway, and thus doesn't interfere that much, but still, why not visiting a demon or Meg, who tells him about his fate and yaddayadda? Lucifer and Sam were on of the reasons I spoiled myself through the fifth season.
Oh, well, we'll get a scene tomorrow, I'm sure of it, since Lucifer appears. I envy you who can see it when it airs, I'll have to wait to Friday afternoon.
jessm78: AHBLjessm78 on April 22nd, 2010 08:35 am (UTC)
Plotholez seems to be the way of the show, eh? ;D

Yeah, the more I thought of it, it seemed possible because I'm sure we'll see Adam again, most likely as Michael's vessel. I don't see Michael giving up that easily on the "one true vessel." I would really hate for him to goad Dean into saying yes by insisting that Sam will say yes to Lucifer. It would really undo what we saw at the end of this episode - Dean would lose whatever faith he decided to have in Sam.

I don't blame you, I'm pretty disappointed in it too. They really should have devoted more time to it. We only had Lucifer himself in Nick speaking to him the first time (although at first appearing as Jess), and then once more in episode 10. You could be right that Lucifer is convinced Sam will say yes anyway so he doesn't think he needs anyone to push him further in that direction. I could see Lucifer maybe trying to goad him by telling him that Dean doesn't have any faith in him at all (despite what Dean said at the end of this episode), maybe trying to make it more personal in comparing their situations. Or try to get to him in some other way and really hit him where it hurts. Eek, thinking about all this is actually scaring me, LOL. Maybe we will get such a scene, though. I'll be posting my review right after it airs.

I would have loved to see more of Sam's thought process on how he is so determined not to give in to Lucifer, and especially on how he wants to fight against fate together with Dean. I guess that's something that can only be explored more in fanfic, though.