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29 April 2010 @ 11:01 pm
SPN #5x20 The Devil You Know (episode review)  
Here is my hopefully-not-too-incoherent review. Just as a quick warning, this is a Sam-vs.-Dean-bashing-free zone. :)

Hee! Herpexia ad and a dig at the Swine Flu vaccine!

Ooh, a first: the boys in suits *and* surgical masks! I thought it was cute how they tried to act casual in front of the doctor when they mentioned the statues crying.

The boys are looking for Pestilence and Bobby doesn't have much help to offer. Until Crowley appears out of nowhere inside the Impala. He's quite the eavesdropper, isn't he. He knows how to get to Pestilence. Dean is all ears and Sam can't believe that he's listening to him. He's still very angry over Ellen and Jo being killed on that mission Crowley sent them on (in Abandon All Hope). Dean hears Crowley out. Crowley says every demon's got their eyes out for him and here he is talking to Sam and Dean under a friggin' spotlight (which he shoots out). Ooh, the way Sam glowers down at him... if looks could kill... *fans self* Crowley wants them to come with him, he can apparently help them get the rings.

He shows them his hideout, which is really pitiful. He whines about it (did he say "used contraception in the fireplace"??). Dean asks him how he knows about the rings and he says he's been keeping a close eye on them. Sam says their hex bags keep them hidden, but he has something else: a coin that's a tracking device he had put in their car that night they broke into his house. He says it allows him to hear thing, and "my, the things I've heard." Ooh, do tell, Crowley. LOL. He tells them he wants in on their scheme to lock Lucifer back in his box. Hmmmm... can he really be trusted?

He tells them he can't get them Pestilence, but he can bring them his "stable boy", who can help them get to Pestilence. The "stable boy" turns out to be a guy named Mr. Brady, who is the head of a company that's supposed to be making this Swine Flu vaccine... or something like that. We see him kill a lackey and realize he's a demon. He calls Pestilence the same way Meg called the YED, with the blood in the cup.

Back at the hideout, Sam thinks it's insane that they're listening to Crowley. Crowley then makes it worse and says Sam can't come because he doesn't trust him. Oh no. He then asks Dean what he's going to do. Dean doesn't say anything for a while but then says he'll go. Oh goodness, the look on Sam's face. It hurts. :( Dean turns back to Sam and says he believes the guy (I think?).

While Dean and Crowley are gone, Sam's drinking and is on the phone with Bobby. And honestly I think this was the part of the episode that really bothered me the most. He asks Bobby about how he was able to "take back the wheel" when he was possessed by the demon in Sympathy for the Devil. Bobby didn't answer him I think, but he wants to know what the hell Sam's thinking. Sam seems to have an idea. That maybe he can go into the cage and then take back control from Satan. He thinks he's strong enough. Oh noes. :( Bobby insists it's a bad idea, that the Devil will find every chink in Sam's armor and use every one of his weaknesses against him. He says Sam isn't exactly Mr. Anger Management, and how could he control the Devil when he can't control himself.

Sammy, honestly, I don't think this is a good idea. Not that I don't have faith in you, but that something could go really wrong. It usually does.

Now we shift to Dean and Crowley at Mr. Brady's headquarters. Crowley makes Dean go alone to find him. Looks like Brady has been expecting Dean and asks how his brother is. Dean schemes to take him back with them by offering him the rings from the other horsemen. Brady beats Dean up though, he doesn't want the rings - he wants Dean. Crowley finally shows up with a sack with a devil's trap on it, puts it over Brady's head and beats him senseless. Well, nice to see that he didn't totally abandon Dean, but still...

Gotta admit the Dean/Crowley snark was kinda funny. Dean: "Watch the upholstery!" Crowley: "Up yours, mate." Heh.

So it turns out the reason Crowley didn't want Sam going along was because he and Brady have a history. Dean wants to know what.

Back at the hideout they've got Brady tied to a chair and still with the bag over his head. Sam wants to know what's going on. Dean tells him to stay focused. He tells Sam he's doing it because he trusts him. Aw. I know some might say that Dean probably doesn't mean it, but I think he does at least a little. If he totally didn't mean it he wouldn't have even brought the guy back in front of Sam. Or he'd have Sam restrained. I know what's at work here, but I'll talk about it later. Anyway, when Dean takes the sack off Brady's head, Sam realizes he's the guy he knew from Stanford. Demon!Brady tells him he's not Brady anymore, not since the middle of their sophomore year. Sam's reaction just breaks my heart. :( He shares a quick look with Dean. Brady tells him "you had a devil on your shoulder even back then." Aw, Sam is so overwhelmed by this. He explodes at Brady, telling him he was the one who introduced Sam to Jess. He tells Brady he's going to kill him, but Dean holds him back.

Dean pushes Sam out of the room but Sam wants a go at Brady. Dean wants to spare him because they can get the ring from him, and the rings are the way to beat the Devil. Sam can't believe Dean trusts Crowley - it's like Sam himself trusting Ruby. At this point I'm not entirely sure if it's the same thing. I mean, Ruby was manipulating Sam. Not entirely sure if Crowley is manipulating Dean. We'll have to see if he really does double-cross them as far as the rings are concerned. i guess it is the same thing on the surface, in terms of each boy being desperate to achieve an outcome. Dean desperate to kill the Devil and Sam desperate to kill Lilith.


Sam barricades Dean in the bathroom while he goes over to Brady. We learn some more about their history. Apparently Brady had come back from Thanksgiving during sophomore year all messed up, into drugs and girls and etc. It wasn't the "new Brady", it was just him possessed by the demon. Sam tried to help him, though. Aww, what a good puppy, even back then. *g* But he says that Sam was getting soft, and as the YED's favorite (ugh... I get nasty shudders every time I'm reminded of that), they couldn't have that.

Whoa... what a revelation. So it wasn't the YED that burned Jess on the ceiling. He just put the hit out on her and Brady did it himself.

He really is getting to Sam and making him really angry. Sam threatens him with the knife and cuts him as Brady goads him. But he doesn't kill him. I'm so glad that he didn't let his anger get the best of him. Liked seeing him be strong there. :) He lets Dean out and tells him he was right, that they do need him.

What's this whole thing about Crowley and Brady being "lovers"?

Uh oh. Hellhounds. Crowley tells them he had a tracking device on himself too? And he tosses the coin to Dean and vanishes? Yeah, nice one there. Sam to Dean: "I told you!!" Dean (in an uber snotty voice): "Oh, good for yoooooou!!"

The hellhounds are after them when Crowley reappears. Turns out he can control hellhounds? He has is own, too... which takes out the other hellhounds as they all escape.

So Brady gives them the address for Pestilence. Hmm. No, I don't think I trust this guy at all. I bet he's going to bring Pestilence to them somehow.

Nice to see the boys together right there against Brady. Dean tells him that they are the ones he should be afraid of. Sam engages in a showdown with Brady. He tells Sam that he trusted them (him, Ruby, etc.) because they all have the same stuff in their veins. He's just like them, and he hates them because he hates himself. Ouch. Sam finally does lose it and kills Brady. He says "interesting theory" and walks away. And wow, the look on Dean's face...

At the very end Bobby is on the phone with Rufus when Crowley suddenly appears. He wants to help them find the last ring - Death's. He tells Bobby there's a spell and he can give him anything, but he needs Bobby's soul. Bobby: "Here's my counter." And he shoots Crowley. Heh. "You think I'm a natural born idjit?"

Crowley tells him that it would just be temporary, and he'd give his soul back.

Bobby really looks like he's considering it. Oh gosh. How much do you want to bet he will give in? :( I wonder if he really would, especially after that conversation with Sam? That it bothered him and he thinks that if he gets Death's ring, it'll do something to help prevent Sam from going through with a plan like that? I don't know whether Crowley can be totally trusted though. I mean, he did help the boys find Brady and Pestilence's address, but with Crowley it seems like there's always some kind of string attached, if you know what I mean. And yeah, I know he's a demon and really can't be trusted. I think he really does want to stop the Devil... for his own personal reason of course... but seems like in pursuit of that the boys (and Bobby) will get hurt.

Back to what I was saying about Dean saying he trusts Sam... He appeared to be saying he trusts him not to lose his cool in front of a demon. I do think that at least part of Dean trusts Sam, but he probably wants Sam to control his anger. It's obvious that Lucifer could use Sam's anger against him. The way Sam was pushed by Brady alone when he told him about Jess and goaded him... didn't Lucifer tell Sam (in Abandon All Hope I think) that all that anger Sam has will come in handy for him? It's clear he (by way of Brady) is using Jess to push Sam. I think Dean knows this and is afraid that if Sam gives in too much to this anger, it will get him closer to saying Yes. Sam had told Dean in Sam, Interrupted that he was angry (and Dean had told him to bury it... I understand now why he said it, even though it's not good to bury anything like that). And he said it again quite recently that Sam was angry.

I was glad that Sam was able to hold back and not kill Brady at first since they still needed him. But he finally did kill him and it was interesting that what Brady said then - about Sam really being like him, Ruby and the others, and that he hates them because he hates himself - was enough to push Sam into killing him.

I really don't know what else to say. And I'm not trying to turn this into a Sam vs. Dean type of thing. I'm trying to be fair to both boys as much as I can and look at this from both their POVs.

The idea Sam told Bobby, though... I have a feeling he's going to try to follow through with it, and that really scares me. I would really love for him to be strong enough not to let himself be tricked into saying Yes to Lucifer - not to let his anger get him there. Even if he tries and appears strong enough, I still have this feeling that something could go wrong. And I think Bobby will end up making a deal for his soul... not sure whether or not that will actually follow through, but it's another feeling I have. I don't know, I'm pretty scared about the last two eps of this season. :( If things end up badly, how on earth would they be able to start things over for season 6? I guess it doesn't pay to overthink it, though.

On the totally shallow side, both boys looked incredibly good tonight. Sammy was really workin' the bitchface, lol. And his hair looked so pretty (though was it me or did it look like they'd straightened it quite a bit in some scenes?).
Current Mood: worriedworried
i dream of colors that have never been seen: pic#96929114hotdamnetoile444 on April 30th, 2010 03:10 am (UTC)
What's this whole thing about Crowley and Brady being "lovers"?

I get this feeling they are passing Crowley off as some bi-sexual demon. IDK, at least he never winked at Dean or anything....will he and Bobby have to kiss? Really, I don't want to know. LOL!

Thought Sam showed both lots of anger and lots of strength and restraint in this episode. Still, even before tomnight, I kept thinking Sam will end up in that trap with Lucifer!!!
tw_31988 on April 30th, 2010 04:53 am (UTC)
LOL, you just put the image of Bobby and Crowley kissing in my mind XDD ....not as odd as i thought XD

jessm78: Supernatural: Sam teh awesome (3x14)jessm78 on April 30th, 2010 12:13 pm (UTC)
I'm kinda getting that, too. Especially with the way he was first presented back in Abandon All Hope (with the way he kissed that one guy who made a deal). LOL! For some reason, I'm betting he and Bobby will kiss... not gonna think about it now though, lol

I agree. The anger was just palpable from him, but on the other hand he did show lots of strength and restraint. I was glad that he didn't kill Brady until after they got the info for Pestilence's whereabouts. That idea crossed my mind, too. I could see it happening, and it could very well backfire. Again, something I can't think about too much or it'll drive me crazy, lol!

(btw, I love your icon!)
Pensola: Sweetpenamesolen on May 1st, 2010 07:48 am (UTC)
They kiss. And Crowley takes a picture to proove it to Sam and Dean.
Gerigeri on April 30th, 2010 03:22 am (UTC)
Oh my thank god for my dvr i have been watching tonight's episode over and over again, simply out standing. Sam had more control than everyone gave him credit for up until dean let him(reed) x his ass out in the alleyway and crowley is a sneaky son of gun but i like his method to get what he wants to him the end justifies the means. Go figure letting dean walk blindly into that trap and getting his ass kicked all over the place just to get reed were he wanted him.

And my god the look on sam's face when he saw his friend sitting in that chair only to be told that he was dead for a long time only to be brought back into the fold.

And than the way he procceeds to tell sam how he killed jessica and enjoyed doing it sam showed more restraint than anyone else would have at that moment.
jessm78jessm78 on April 30th, 2010 12:30 pm (UTC)
Exactly. *hugs her dvr* I was really glad to see Sam exercising so much control. Crowley is a quirky guy, definitely sneaky, but he has given them some help in his own way.

Oh I know, he was just stunned. Poor Sammy, I wanted to give him such a big hug. I liked hearing what a good friend he was to the guy, even though he had been taken over by the demon unbeknownst to Sam back then.

I was so worried that Sam was going to off him then, after seeing him slash him with the knife, but I was really proud of him for showing such restraint. I think he does have more strength than people give him credit for, I just hope it's enough to deal with Lucifer. *worries*
anastdean: picDean shirtless watch for the plotanastdean on April 30th, 2010 10:43 am (UTC)
Well I think Bobby will say yes and so will Sammy and things will probably backfire on them like they usually do, but we got s6, so I guess it'll all be okay.

On the shallow note..
Jared's pretty face and that sexy unharmed Jensen's face always do the trick for me.
jessm78: Hollywood Babylonjessm78 on April 30th, 2010 12:14 pm (UTC)
I got that feeling too, hon. It really worries me but the boys just have to be back together for S6, as themselves and not Michael and Lucifer. I think it's going to be a crazy hellatus, lol

Ooh, me too :D
Call Me Psycho Troll!ala_tariel on April 30th, 2010 12:49 pm (UTC)
I saw pics of Crowley from the promo pics and I thought he's gonna kiss one of the boys! Hahahahaha

Jess, I can't wait to see your Puppy!Sam picspam for this epi. :D
jessm78: Jared Padalecki: tee hee (Chicago 08)jessm78 on April 30th, 2010 08:04 pm (UTC)
LOL! I was thinking that too! If not the boys, then maybe Bobby :D

Thanks hon! I can't wait to make it, I think I'm going to have fun with it.
ckllckll on April 30th, 2010 01:19 pm (UTC)
We all have a bad feeling about Sammy after his call to Bobby.
It's scary when he feels angry.
jessm78: Supernatural: Sam in BDBRjessm78 on April 30th, 2010 10:22 pm (UTC)
It is very scary. I hope he can overcome his anger. *worries for Sammy*
bella66sammy1966 on April 30th, 2010 01:24 pm (UTC)
I haven't watch the ep yet but I've read on a board somewhere that Jared's acting was off. Some people even say that it was downright terrible!! I just don't believe that. I just hate when people bash him like that...
jessm78: Supernatural: Puppy Love Sam (5x16)jessm78 on April 30th, 2010 02:30 pm (UTC)
Wow really? I didn't get that impression at all! I think he did a great job. I do too, all the bashing is way over the top. :(
bella66sammy1966 on April 30th, 2010 01:32 pm (UTC)
Following my other post, here's some comments people wrote about Jared:

"i LOVE this show and Jared is usually spot on but tonight he was SO over the top and bad. cool ep though. "

"I love Jared but I'm afraid I have to agree. . .he was a bit over the top at points. Like I get Sam is supposed to be angry, but does he really have to yell everything he says?"

"I wouldn't say he was terrible, but he was a bit off in the recent episode."

What do you think?

jessm78: Supernatural: Puppy Love Sam (5x16)jessm78 on April 30th, 2010 02:36 pm (UTC)
I think those comments were a little petty. I didn't see Jared being over the top. He was supposed to be angry. They're returning to Sam's anger issues, and trying to use it to get him closer to saying "yes." I can totally understand him being angry about the revelation involving Jess. Sam would want this guy dead after hearing he was the one who killed her. He did show some control when he didn't kill him at first.
bella66sammy1966 on April 30th, 2010 02:49 pm (UTC)
For some people, Jensen has always been the best of the two and Jared is always bad not matter what he does. Don't get me wrong, I think Jensen is an amazing actor but so is Jared. Yes, I'm a real Sammy girl and I will always defend my puppy. I can't wait to watch this episode.
jessm78: Supernatural: Puppy Love Sam (5x16)jessm78 on April 30th, 2010 03:19 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I feel the same way. I get so tired of all the Jared vs. Jensen bashing. I think they're both amazing actors too and like you I will always defend the puppy :D
bella66sammy1966 on April 30th, 2010 06:22 pm (UTC)
"I'm one of those people who has always thought that Jared couldn't act to save himself (no wonder he and Genevieve make such a good couple)."

Oh, this comment really made me mad...I could punch that guy... sorry, that's the last one.
jessm78: Supernatural: Puppy Love Sam (5x16)jessm78 on April 30th, 2010 06:57 pm (UTC)
Yeah, that is going a little too far... everyone's entitled to their opinions but please... let me guess, he's a huge Jensen fan? I'm not a Gen lover (actually I don't really have any opinion of her), but that was out of line.

Edited at 2010-04-30 06:58 pm (UTC)
jenni_fromtexas: Sammy frownjenni_fromtexas on April 30th, 2010 05:03 pm (UTC)
Sammy, honestly, I don't think this is a good idea. Not that I don't have faith in you, but that something could go really wrong. It usually does.

Unless he pulls off some serious Sam-Fu with his powers, I don't think Sam's plan will go too smoothly either...I don't know any spoilers coming up but I have a feeling that this is how they're going to end the season, on a cliffhanger with Lucifer inhabiting Sam. 0.o

Either that, or Crowley's deal with Bobby works and disaster is -- narrowly -- averted...but we shall see... *bites nails with you*

jessm78: Supernatural: Sam in BDBRjessm78 on April 30th, 2010 07:00 pm (UTC)
Yeah, that sounds very possible to me. *shudders* Makes me wonder how they'd get him back for next season. I'd guess someone is going to intervene somehow.

It'll be interesting to see how it plays out, but... yeah.. *still nervously bites nails*
Pensola: Hungrypenamesolen on April 30th, 2010 09:23 pm (UTC)
I don't think ending the season five with a cliffhanger with Lucifer in Sam will happen, mostly because Eric Kripte himself stated that the season five will be the end of the whole Lucifer-arc, and a female producer mentioned that maybe they would continue, but it was a possibility that they would move to a more sequel-esque season 6.

And honestly, I kind of don't want to wait ANOTHER season just because they see how the show earns attention and money. I do love Supernatural, I do, but I'm not much of a fan of fillers when there are more important things at hand. Season one, two and three were okay, because there they didn't know where to start looking for John, they didn't know how to find Azazel (since John knew more than he told them) or how to stop Dean's upcoming death. Season four was kind of annoying in that sense, since it was something important going on (Lilith breaking the seals to free Lucifer) and yet there were a lot of fillers. Season five has done it okay since it only had about three-four fillers, in which most of them did have a meaning, if ever so little. But if they are to continue the Apocalypse in a season six, I know they will make many fillers, and it would annoy me. That's why I hope for a sequel-esque season, but on the other hand, I just don't know what more there is to tell, unless the brothers once more have to reconsile and repair their relationship. Not to mention that, by creating a sixth season, the possible ends that were speculated (Sam dying, both dying, etc.) are showed off. I would be really sad to lose any of the brothers, but I don't like altered endings either (though, if SPN was to be only one season and then going more from there, I guess they have altered the endings a lot :P).

At least we get more insight in Sam's reasons to possibly say yes to Lucifer in this episode, compared to their interraction in Hammer of the Gods, where the only interraction was Lucifer's "Sam, Deam, good to see you |)".
jessm78jessm78 on April 30th, 2010 10:22 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I keep thinking back to what Kripke said about his 5 year plan, and the fact that they said season 6 might go back to their roots, almost like season 1.

I really don't want to see the Apocalypse continue into season 6 for the reasons you stated, plus I feel it would be pretty contrived... we'd be able to tell they're just dragging it out. I would love to see the boys reconcile and come back together. The way the tension is still playing out this season, I wouldn't be surprised if they end up apart again. If they do, I don't want to wait too long to see them come back together. I think their brotherly bond is really the heart of the show and I'd hate to see them out on their own for too long.

*nods* I was glad to see that.
Pensolapenamesolen on April 30th, 2010 11:12 pm (UTC)
I think that if season 5 ends almost happily ever after, a season 6 with the guys going around hunting monsters of the week is weak. I know that both guys know that they most likely are too much into the hunting to actually get a normal life, but I'd like to have the ending fairly open if they survive the show. Like, they go into the Impala, Sam asking Dean, "So, what now?" or "Where are we going?", and Dean replies, "Where do you think?"`, and it ends with Sam chuckling lighly, as if feeling stupid for even asking, as Dean drives the Impala in the sunrise (the sunrise symbolizing a new morning; a new start of their lives). So there we get a heavy hint that they continue hunting, and so we don't need a sixth season dedicated to tell us this.

It's just like this game I like. All the fans were screaming for a sequel, but when the sequel came, more than half of the fanbase thought it sucked, which prooved that they only wanted a sequel because they couldn't stand the thought of the story quitting, but in the end many realized that they would have liked it better if the story ended where it originally did.

At least that's with me. I like a show for how it starts, how the plot is, how it ends and the comparisions between the start and the end (i.e. Sam wanted to be normal, but now he knows it's too late; Dean never really caring about normalcy but now wants to live with Lisa and Ben), not that it continues when the story ends. If there is a good reason for Sam dying, or both of them, I would accept it, and maybe even loving it (because I did love the scene where Gabriel died; it was sad as hell, but it was a good scene showing more of Lucifer's other sides and how Gabriel has changed from his original introduction). I know that if Sam WAS to trick Lucifer into the trap by saying yes, and have this grand metal fight in his head while Lucifer was superior, it would be really exciting to see how sam eventually, with his love for Dean, take control and trap himself with Lucifer. I would cry, and I might even scream for a season where Dean finds a way to save Sam, but I would also want the producers to kind of ignore my pleas because the ending would be awesome without a sequel. As a friend of mine said, "We want a sequel, but we want OUR sequels, not any offical ones. So they should leave it to the fanbase to imagine a sequel".

If I'm not wrong, Lucifer and Sam are going to talk in next episode while Dean talks to Death (it might just be wrong picture for the next episode, though). When I heard this, I instantly thought that Death had made Dean tell where Sam was in order to get his ring, hoping that Sam would be able to fight Lucifer off, and then Lucifer would come to talk to Sam. That's most likely not happening, but my imagination can go wild when it wants to :D

By the way, am I your only friend with drawn icons instead of real-life images? /:O
Kristin: Jared » J.D. Brothers™kristypadalecki on April 30th, 2010 06:56 pm (UTC)
Great review, hon! I'm super worried about Sam now too. He just can't go through with that plan. :(

His hair did look quite gorgeous throughout the episode, I have to agree. ♥
jessm78: Supernatural: Jared S2 Promo (smile)jessm78 on April 30th, 2010 07:21 pm (UTC)
Thanks, Kristin! Yeah, I'm really worried that he'll go through with it and that it will backfire. :( I know we have S6 so if anything bad happens it can't stay that way... but I'm still worried for now.

Glad I'm not the only one! It was so drool-worthy. &hearts