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01 October 2007 @ 11:55 pm
I totally hate PMS...  
Okay, so I know I just posted in here a few hours ago... and I know that it's way too late and I should be in bed since I'm working tomorrow... but I have too much on my mind and I need to vent.

So I wasn't online at all this past weekend since I didn't think I'd have internet access at the motel and didn't bring my laptop.  I went back to Gateworld to catch up on a few things.  I went to this one thread I'm subscribed to, basically one showing off artwork that a friend posts... mostly wallpapers.  So a bunch of people posted daniel/vala ship walls, one person gushed over them and asked if it was possible to do another ship (I think sam/cam) wallpaper. I said to this other friend of mine (she was one who posted d/v walls) the artwork was nice and asked if they could do a sam/daniel wall, but only if it doesn't make them sick... I put one of those jokey smiley faces because I was being silly when I said it.  I know not many people like my ship and I was just joking about it.

I'd emailed her earlier because I had a question about where to find some huge pics of the Stargate (I'm in the middle of a drawing I want to present to Michael Shanks at the convention).  She replied and gave me a link to a website for the pic, and then says she'll do a s/d wall for me and that it doesn't make her sick.  But she said I have to stop putting comments like that in my posts because they really bother a lot of people and she doesn't want anyone talking behind my back.  Which makes me think that people ARE talking behind my back about it.

Seriously, I think a lot of people, and I'm talking mostly about Daniel/Vala shippers (though I don't mean ALL of them, just some that I've observed), need to understand why I do this.  They don't have to be self-deprecating over their ship because they get to see so much of it, and it's so darned popular so they can be so totally serious over it and they can post about it with reckless abandon even in areas that don't have much to do with it.  Sam/Daniel is like the ugly, red-headed stepchild of the Stargate ships.  We have been scorned quite a bit and we know it, so some of us like to poke a bit of fun at that.  I don't see what the problem is.  I mean if people find it a little annoying, that's one thing, but it's gotten to the point where I'm almost afraid to post many pictures of Daniel with Sam on a thread devoted to Daniel/MS for fear that people will yell at me for it (and it's happened before - a year ago they told me to keep it in the S/D thread).  Yet people can post all the Daniel/Vala pics they want and don't get in trouble.  I'm sick of the double standard, and it made me think that everyone loves D/V so they don't mind it, but they're sickened by S/D so eww, don't post so many pics of them over there.

So anyway I try to joke about it sometimes, and it just seems like there is so much Daniel/Vala stuff on a Stargate forum, even in threads that have nothing to do with it really. 

I'm at the point where I don't care if people talk about this crp behind my back, if they hate my ship then whatever, I'm used to that.  But part of me doesn't want to bug people and turn them off.  And it makes me wonder because sometimes when I log onto GW, everyone will suddenly take off in threads that had at least a few people posting.  If people have a problem with me I'd like to know about it and then I'll go away and leave them alone.  Seriously.  But I wish they could understand why I do this, I mean they don't know what it's like to be a fan of something that's so unpopular.

Jeepers I can't believe I'm obsessing so much over this.  I loathe PMS, I really really hate it.  And Wendy, if by any chance you're reading this, I don't mean any offense or anything and I hope you don't hate me for any of this.  If it's one thing I don't want, it's losing friends over something as stupid as this. 
 
 
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maevebran: S+DUptoNoGoodmaevebran on October 2nd, 2007 06:00 am (UTC)
{{hugs}} I think people don't mind the Sam/Daniel stuff in the pond just that you feel like you have to appologize for it. =)

BTW- I was watching Dominion the other night and you know the scene after Adria ascends and the team is joining Vala in the room. Sam stys close to Daniel and keeps a hand on his arm as they enter the room. (Evidence at least to me that they are still friends.) When I noticed it I thought I must point that out to Jess.=)
jessm78: being therejessm78 on October 2nd, 2007 09:07 am (UTC)
Thanks for the hugs Maeve :) It's been the day from hell so far but I'm feeling a little better now...

I guess you could be right... I am probably way too cautious about posting it after what happened last year and after some of the D/V shippers who've given me negative reputation (I won't say their names here just in case, but one's name starts with an f and the other with an i). I know they don't represent all shippers but I know some people at the Pond have said they hate Sam so I don't want to bug them too much with the pics. I guess I am too silly.

*grin* Oh yes I know that scene... I think I remember someone else had mentioned it some months back but when I caught it again I saw it and smiled. And I guess the fact that Daniel doesn't push Sam away means that they are still friends too. :) Thanks hon.
maevebran: Daniel Ficmaevebran on October 2nd, 2007 05:55 pm (UTC)
I'm sorry you had a run in with bad D/V shippers. (I know of one that starts with an I but I think she's pretty new and no none starting with f so ok.) There seems to have been a change over in who is active in the D/V thread these days and pretty much we let ship as ship can. We accept people who ship other couples as well. (Some of the active people also ship Vala/Cam, Vala/Teal'c, and even Vala/Sam. Then there is me who ships Daniel with anything female) So while you might not want to venture into our territory, know that the die hard fans in that thread hold nothing against your ship.=)

How can any one hate Sam? She esential to the team. I might not like some of the choices they made with her character but she is still vital to SG1.=)
jessm78: wtfjessm78 on October 2nd, 2007 06:21 pm (UTC)
Thanks. The one who starts with an f is also a huge Farscape fan and I think she followed CB over to Stargate. I had a run in with her at Our Stargate a long time ago. Turned out she'd harassed a bunch of people and got banned. Then when she was at GW she got banned once but came back under a different name. Not sure if she got banned again. I am glad that most of the people in the D/V thread are ship and let ship. That's pretty much how we are over at the S/D thread too. :)

I don't know, it doesn't make much sense to me. I think some of the Daniel fans got mad about the S/J shippy stuff in S4 and said it sidelined Daniel's character, and they blame her for it. I know that Mad over at the Pond told me she either hated or didn't care for Sam at all, I can't remember. But we haven't had any arguments about it, which is good.
tiah15: Jason Behrtiah15 on October 3rd, 2007 11:00 am (UTC)
That's the way the internet works. Believe me, I'm a very sarcastic person most of the time and half of my sentences are in dire need of some kind of smiley to ensure people understand me :) (See?!)
It's enough to explain that you were joking once, and if it isn't, then don't joke there anymore. That's really the only solution I see.
And may I say, that every time you post something like this, I'm glad I'm not a part of those boards? :) This is really the only fandom I ship in, where people get on your case for shipping a pairing that's not canon - and I do ship a few things :) Maybe I'm spoilt from Roswell? Who knows!
Hope the PMS is over soon *g*
jessm78jessm78 on October 6th, 2007 08:14 pm (UTC)
LOL, I find there are times I have to do that a lot myself. I did explain myself in email to her, so I guess that's all I can do. I've decided to stay away from there if I'm in a mood like that.

I think in a way you're lucky to not be a part of those boards. Things can get really crazy there sometimes. I only stick to the topics that I know are safe, like the S/D ship thread and a few others where people are generally nice. I also notice that the topics about other fandoms (there is Doctor Who and some others) are a lot better.

Thanks. :) I think it's over now. I'm feeling better. And I know now to stay away from these places when I'm in such a mood.