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18 October 2012 @ 06:59 pm
SPN #8x03 Heartache (episode review)  
Sorry I am so late with this. I was so exhausted from everything going on yesterday, after the episode ended I *GASP!* went to sleep. LOL. I did write up some of my thoughts about the ep, though, so I have them and will share them now......



Jensen did an awesome job with directing. Awesome! And it was really cool seeing his dad.

Sam's hair just renders me unconscious, lol.... Though my mom had to spoil it by saying "I can't stand his hair, I don't care what you say. He looks like a woman!" *facepalm*

Um... interesting premise, that. The athlete makes a deal with a Mayan god, but he has to take people's hearts? And then the woman posing as his mother was really his girlfriend?

Sam was totally fanboying that athlete too, especially when they were in his house. Hee.

Nice to see Dean feeling excited about getting back into the game, though Sam is still pretty "meh" about it. Made me feel kinda sad the way he said that he wanted out after all this (finding Kevin and the tablet(s)) was done. Though it kinda mirrored season 1 for me. Remember in Shadow when Sam asked Dean what if they killed the YED? He'd sleep for a month, go back to school and be a person again. Dean didn't want to hear it then, and he doesn't want to hear it now. I don't like the thought of the boys going their separate ways, at least yet, so I guess we'll see how this turns out. I also read this meta that did a great job of explaining what's going on in Sam's head and ties it all to season 1 nicely. It's here. Read it!! Er, if you haven't already ;)

It was interesting how this episode ended up. After seeing the filming pics for the first time and then the promo pics, I had assumed that at least half the episode would be taken up by flashbacks. But no, it was relegated to just one flashback at the very end of the episode. Amelia on the picnic blanket reminded me of Lisa doing the same thing back in DALDOM. I'm still meh on her, can't really warm up to her character. And *what* was the dog's name? I'm blanking now, but I swear I thought it was so weird when I first heard it.

This ep ended up being a little better than I first expected, at least as far as the lack of flashbacks were concerned. And It was good to see the boys on a case together.

 
 
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jessm78: Supernatural: Puppy Love Sam (5x16)jessm78 on October 18th, 2012 08:34 pm (UTC)
Thanks! I thought it was something like that...
Yellowbulmayellowbulma on October 18th, 2012 07:31 pm (UTC)
Haven't see the episode but I feel the same as you about Sam's girlfriend. =/
jessm78jessm78 on October 18th, 2012 10:05 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I guess I'll give her a chance but I'm not really impressed with her yet. It is early but she really bugged me in the season premiere especially.
Yellowbulmayellowbulma on October 19th, 2012 01:59 pm (UTC)
That line she said I think it was "there's my hero.", I just wanted to punch her!! XD
i dream of colors that have never been seenetoile444 on October 18th, 2012 07:44 pm (UTC)
Not spending time on the girlfriend is not helping the situation. How can you warm up to some one you barely know? I feel I know Benny better.

I liked the episode, but I need reasons. I need to know why Sam is no longer wanting to hunt. I get that he didn't at age 22. But now at 30 or 31, after years of seemingly non stop hunting and the desire to hunt (remember "Terrible Life", he could not stop the break through memories of hunting despite the angel magic. Alterna Sam asks Dean if there is more they should be doing. It's in his blood!) he has wanted this. So why the turn around?

I need to know now! My patience is wearing thin!!!

My mom likes Sam's hair, but said Jensen's dad is "plain"! LOL!

jessm78jessm78 on October 18th, 2012 10:06 pm (UTC)
Very true. Especially about Benny.

I know what you mean. I hope we learn more about this, I really do.

LOL, my mom though it was "neat" that Jensen's dad was on screen with him :D
ash48ash48 on October 18th, 2012 08:20 pm (UTC)
Amelia on the picnic blanket reminded me of Lisa doing the same thing back in DALDOM

Yes. I thought of that too. It's weird to me that Sam is getting lost of flack for dreaming of a normal life, but Dean did it also. He even had a "normal" life for a year also. He dropped everything to return to Sam and now Sam has dropped everything to return to him. Oh boys...

I don't think we know enough about Amelia yet. So far, I'm cool with it but I am definitely looking forward to more of her story. :)

jessm78: Supernatural: Sam grinning in TKAAjessm78 on October 18th, 2012 10:09 pm (UTC)
Yeah, it seemed a bit weird to me for Sam to be on this hunt but seemingly preoccupied with wanting to get out, almost like "Yeah okay, so this is going on, can we wrap it up 'cause I really want to move on?" Not that he was like that the whole time, but you could tell from the conversations in the Impala. Felt sad when Sam told Dean "Maybe you don't need me..."

*nods* She's still a mystery to us, basically. I am curious about the rest of her story, looking forward to learning more about it. :)
Liliaethliliaeth on October 18th, 2012 11:39 pm (UTC)
Personally, I wouldn't have had a problem with Sam wanting a normal life. It did a lot of good for Dean when he spent a year with Lisa while he believed that Sam was dead.

But and this is the problem point, they should have said that he looked for Dean for a few weeks, tried to find him and had to give up because he couldn't find any trace of him. That's all, give some hint that Sam did look for Dean and he'd look a million times better.
Glass Houses: SPN-Don't Make A Lick of Senseglasshouses on October 19th, 2012 01:07 pm (UTC)
Preach it! Dean never stopped looking for Sam after season 5, and was never completely happy without him, if his dreams and massive consumption of whiskey was any indication.

But the way Sam is written this season, it's almost a relief when nothing ties him to hunting anymore. Ditch the phones, ditch the search for big brother and drive? And you can't tell me Sam's big brain never guessed Dean and Cas went where Dick went. And monsters go to Purgatory.
Liliaethliliaeth on October 19th, 2012 01:30 pm (UTC)
Hell, just have Sam say that he went to Missouri or some other psychic and they couldn't find a trace of Dean on earth. And then have him be so devastated by that, that he accidentally hit the dog ...and on with the story.

Edited at 2012-10-19 05:30 pm (UTC)
jessm78: Jensen Ackles: You Rock from CC'10jessm78 on October 19th, 2012 09:56 pm (UTC)
But and this is the problem point, they should have said that he looked for Dean for a few weeks, tried to find him and had to give up because he couldn't find any trace of him. That's all, give some hint that Sam did look for Dean and he'd look a million times better.

YES. SO much this.
werty30werty30 on October 19th, 2012 03:36 am (UTC)
I agree, the flashback was too short. The time spent with Amelia has changed Sam in some pretty major ways, why not show some more of it? One moment he's leaving her office, she's obviously annoyed with him and his dog-hitting ways, then she's treating him to a surprise birthday picnic. No wonder you're meh on her, she spent like 2 minutes on screen overall.

I like her with Sam, but it's mostly due to liking the actress and needing a happy Sam ship.
jessm78jessm78 on October 19th, 2012 09:58 pm (UTC)
Exactly. That was such a jump from the friction between them in the first flashback, to suddenly giving him the surprise birthday picnic. I'm guessing (hoping) they'll show more of what happened in between.

Hopefully I'll warm up to her. Just need to see more of her before I make up my mind :)
luk70luk70 on October 19th, 2012 09:57 am (UTC)
Well this is my opinion on chapter 8.03.
It was a good episode, not great.
Something positive, Sam had more dialogue than in the previous chapter and some more participation.
Negative: the attitude among the brothers, very distant, both want different things, very different, I guess the last year they lived different experiences that change the perspective on how to see things, while Dean struggled to survive in purgatory, Sam lived a "quiet and normal life, with a girlfriend and dog included" I put in brackets because they really have not shown much of Sam last year.
While Dean wants to continue hunting, doing their job, as always, Sam wants to return to the "normal" life they lived last year. Both attitudes are understandable due to their different experiences.
The only bad thing I see in all this is the attitude that Dean take about Sam wants a normal life, a family and a career, Dean forgets his year with Lisa and Ben, that was not a year of normal life, is he not accept that life for a year?, no contact with anyone or anything that had to do with the supernatural, just leave Lisa and Ben so that they were not in danger and because his brother returned, but if Sam had never returned, he not had left that life.
Sam did the same he leave Amelia and Riot for Dean, if Dean had not returned he would never left them, he had tried to return to school and a normal life have always wanted he want and that was he assumed would have with Jessica (Azazel said if Jessica had not killed, he would have become a lawyer with a wife and 2 children)
Well the chapter did not provide too much and did not say much either, the flashback with Amelia was very poor, which makes me not to have an opinion about her, in the first chapter appeared one minute and in this a half second, I really hope later they clarified something more about her and how she became Sam’s girlfriend and live with him.
Flashback of purgatory had a lot, if they are obviously more interesting than someone with a normal life, although I would like to know that Sam really did that last year, his reasons for not seeking for Dean (valid reasons), and how he began his relationship with Amelia, his interest in returning to school, in what he work the whole time because I guess he working on something.
Well as I said before the chapter did not provide much, I was disappointed the relationship between the brothers, which I hope to improve over the course of the season.
Let us have faith that this will improve.
jessm78: Supernatural: AHBL Sam and Deanjessm78 on October 19th, 2012 10:01 pm (UTC)
Thanks for sharing your opinion, hon :)

I like that Sam had more dialogue, too.

I agree, it bothers me when they are so distant. But yes, their attitudes are both understandable. I hope their relationship improves, I am crossing my fingers!

Very good point about Dean.

When I saw the filming pics and then the promo pics, I thought there would be more of the flashbacks. Very short and not enough to make me have an opinion about Amelia.
luk70luk70 on October 20th, 2012 07:39 pm (UTC)
Oh I can't believe I got someone who believes as I do about Dean and Lisa year, I put that view on other site and they didn't seem right, they said it wasn't not the same, they said that Dean goes to Lisa because Sam asked him, well I think it was because he wanted to go, Sam did not put a gun to his chest to do it, just asked him to go with her to not be alone and to have a normal life (well not all believe that this has been a normal life for me: yes was a normal live, he lived in a house, had a steady job, a "wife and child", barbecues and playground, would not that is a normal life?
I also disagree that he tried to get Sam out of the cage, at no time they showed that he tried to do something to get out Sam the cage, simply went to live with Lisa and forget all about hunt, he has not contact with his surrogate father Bobby all this year, he drive a truck and keep the Impala in the garage..
I doesn't seem right that Sam didn't look for Dean but is not it the same situation?, He went to live with a girl and forget the hunt then why Sam criticize for that and not criticize Dean for the same.
Well anyway I'm still waiting for an explanation of Sam’s attitude, but I have not too much faith, because as always the show is from Dean POV.
So Sam again going to be the bad brother in this relationship.
I hope you have understood my opinion, if not sorry English is not my first language. HUGS
casey: spn s/d big hugcasey28 on October 19th, 2012 02:17 pm (UTC)
I thought of it too, that it mirrored the scene in Shadow. But this time, Sam seemed much colder. And I can't believe he said he wants his life to count for something, as if saving people and hunting things with his brother doesn't count for anything at all. And it makes no sense that he thinks he's never had a normal life before Amelia. I feel sad too that Sam wants out, he's only in it to get the tablet and Kevin, and then he's done.

I read that meta a few days ago, and I know that a lot of people agree with it, but I still think that Sam is very, very OOC this season.

The flashback scene reminded me of Lisa in DALDOM too, and I feel the same way about Amelia, very meh.

I agree, Jensen did an awesome job with directing. And Sam's hair did look good. :)
jessm78: Supernatural: Sam/Dean hug in Mystery Spjessm78 on October 19th, 2012 09:55 pm (UTC)
Good point. The way Sam said what he did in Shadow, there was more heart to it, almost like he felt it... the way he said "Dean, we ARE a family... I'd do anything for you.." etc. The only thing I'd accept is if losing Dean and not knowing where to start looking for him just broke him so much that it made him go to the other extreme... I dunno.

Yeah, I'm not sure if I totally buy into it because Sam is acting quite OOC for me this season, too. I really hope they will explain what's going on with him and I hope there's a good reason for it :(

Yeppers!! :)
batgurl10batgurl10 on October 19th, 2012 05:25 pm (UTC)
Im not very enamored with either sam or amelia right now, but I think Sam was sitting pretty in a nut house for most of the season before he hit the dog. Amelia in the first flashback is a little TOO much for me to like. she had a pushy feisty personality that TV tells us every boy wants...@@ kinda too mary sue

BUT Im feeling like there is WAY more to sams story and we are getting it piece by piece. Did u notice that in the first ep, HE left her and the dog even before he know dean was back. Notice that she was awake when sam left, but she never calls him back...Sam seems more enamored with the dog than her and Im strangely ok with that. Benny is interesting wanna know more about some Vamp that Dean calls my brother" hmmmmm
jessm78: Supernatural: AHBL Sam and Deanjessm78 on October 19th, 2012 09:52 pm (UTC)
Good thoughts. I agree, esp. that Amelia seemed kinda mary sue-ish there...

Yep, I think there is a lot more that we're waiting to find out and we're getting it slowly but surely. I am very curious about why he left her. LOL, yeah, me too. Really curious about Benny, too. So much to learn, I'm eager to find out.
Natalielawofar18 on October 24th, 2012 05:33 pm (UTC)
Ugh, I really don't like Amelia. What kind of irresponsible vet forces someone to adopt a dog, especially one who says he's on the road all the time? And then she was all self-righteous about it too.
jessm78: Jensen Ackles: Magazine Shootjessm78 on October 25th, 2012 12:17 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I really can't make myself like her either. And then the snide way she says "That's my hero" when he finally agrees to do it? *shakes head*