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20 May 2015 @ 10:28 pm
SPN #10x23 Brother's Keeper (episode review)  
Okay, um...

Holy shit, what a ride.

First I want to say that I'm SO glad that Dean didn't kill Sam. Those of you who told me you didn't think it would happen, you are free to tell me "I told you so" until your lips fall off, lol

All my thoughts here are in no particular order. Okay, first we see that Dean really cannot live with the Mark. He sees in his reflection in the motel mirror the images of battered Cas and Mister Throwaway Hunter Friend that he can't keep going like this. And yeah, it would have been nice if we'd had something having to do with Sam too (I don't know, maybe to do with the scene where he said he'd rather it was Sam on the pyre instead of Charlie), but I guess they were just going for physical beatings/death here.

Sam is still desperate as hell to save Dean. :/

Dean leaves Baby's keys for Sam with a note. Awwww, my heart.

Rowena says she doesn't actually love Crowley. Huh. And it turns out she's full of it when she says she doesn't love anything. Cas finds out it's a Polish boy she'd grown fond of, cured and apparently gave immortality to.

So I guess we are left to assume that Cas went nuts and killed Crowley? And that Rowena is now taking over hell?

Back to the boys...Dean summons Death and wants him to kill him. It was cool seeing Death again, Julian is awesome in that role. But Death reminds Dean that he can't be killed because of the Mark. He can remove it, but it has to go to someone else and he would send Dean far away.

But then he has to kill Sam? How exactly does that enter into it? Death said Sam stood him up, I guess back in the S9 premiere, so I guess he's still sore from that...

Dean broke my heart with all he was saying to Sam in that scene, about how how they're both evil or bad or whatever it was and the world is better without them. I guess in a way he could have a point if you think about their weaknesses being each other.

But Sam. OH Sam. The way he tries to convince Dean that he's not bad, that they're good. Dean says he has no choice, though. Death hands Dean his scythe and tells him to reap Sam, or he'll do it.

Sam tearfully gives Dean the old pictures and tells him to look back on them. Dean tells Sam to close his eyes and my heart breaks. :( But it seems that Sam got through to Dean in a similar way to how Dean did to him back in Swan Song.

And then Dean turns around and kills Death! Holy crap. Jensen wasn't kidding when he said at one of the recent cons that he didn't know how the writers would get out of that one. And I guess he was the "someone dies" that they were all talking about. Aw. I will miss Death, though. Is it really possible to kill Death?

But then the Darkness that Death spoke of shows up. The boys get in the car but manage to get stuck as the Darkness advances on them and....

We fade to black. And are left to agonize what's going to happen to them over the hiatus.

So, wow, this was kind of an emotional roller coaster for me. When it looked like Sam would be killed I was literally shouting "Nooooo!" at the TV. Surprised I didn't scare my dogs, lol. But yeah, it is an interesting question of what's going to happen without Death. Are there going to be lots of walking dead hanging around next season? And what happened with Cas and Crowley? I'm assuming Rowena had them under a spell, Cas just went nuts and stabbed Crowley? Did he actually kill him?

I wonder if the Darkness is going to be part of the Big Bad next season, or will it just be the condition of things, kind of like the Apocalypse was during season 5, and maybe Rowena will be the Big Bad? And Metatron is supposedly still out there, too. Hmm, many things to ponder.

And what of Sam and Dean? I am hoping they didn't get swallowed up/killed by the Darkness. The way this finale ended reminded me of the season 4 one when Lucifer was rising. I was glad that it was both of them on the same page facing something together at the very end. It did seem a bit too easy the way the Mark was just taken away from Dean. I know it was from the spell, but still. Meh, I won't try to overthink it.
Current Mood: surprisedsurprised
cindylscindyls on May 21st, 2015 02:35 am (UTC)
I'm so glad you see it before me because I just had to know what was going to happen! Hee hee, I love to be spoiled I guess, esp. when I am dreading the episode.
I have a question tho- you said something about Sam standing Dean up in the first ep. this season - I don't remember the ep. at all, so could you elaborate on that please?
I feel relieved that I can watch it now without worrying about D killing S and I do like that they are together at the end, but once again, they didn't have Sam save Dean from the big bad of the season - sigh - Carver just doesn't get it.
jessm78: Jared Padalecki: Friday 13th textlessjessm78 on May 21st, 2015 03:00 am (UTC)
Hee, I'm happy to spoil as long as people don't mind! ;)

Oh! No, what I was saying was that Death said that Sam "stood him up" in the season 9 premiere... When Sam was supposed to die i.e go with Death but Dean gave Gadreel permission to possess him. Sorry I wasn't too clear there!

Same here - I was pretty worried for a while that it would happen. The one thing I am happy about was how Sam got through to Dean before he could kill him (and then be whisked away somewhere far where he wouldn't hurt anyone). Basically a role reversal from Swan Song. But yeah, the spell just happened to cure Dean of the Mark. Meh.

Edited at 2015-05-21 03:02 am (UTC)
cindylscindyls on May 21st, 2015 03:14 am (UTC)
Oh thank you! I seem unable to remember most of the episodes after season 4 or so, lol. So, once again, someone else saves Dean ...blech. Sam never gets to kill the big bad either. Sigh.
jessm78: Jared Padalecki: Power of Padahairjessm78 on May 21st, 2015 03:42 am (UTC)
Sure thing!

*sigh* Yep...for a whole it looked like he was willing to sacrifice himself in a way similar to the way he did in Swan Song, right before Dean killed Death. Don't get me wrong, I'm so glad he didn't die, but yeah, it would've been nice to see him either do the saving or gank the big bad. The spell ridding Dean of the Mark was pretty anti-climatic.

Edit: I was thinking about this some more and, actually, Sam did end up saving Dean from the Mark. He was the one who insisted that Rowena do the spell that would remove it, even when Cas told him not to, that it's dangerous. But he insisted and the spell ended up working finally. So yeah, maybe it wasn't as overt as we would have liked, but Dean is now free from the Mark thanks to Sam's insistence of the spell being done.

Edited at 2015-05-21 12:17 pm (UTC)
cindylscindyls on May 21st, 2015 05:04 pm (UTC)
That is true, I guess Sam finally did save Dean in a finale ;-) But of course now he will be blamed for releasing the Darkness and Rowena's part in it will be diminished because even tho she did the spell, she was held prisoner by Sam and forced to do it...the guy can't catch a break. There are still people who repeat the old standby that Sam started the apocalypse, but it was Dean who broke the first seal, so they BOTH had a hand in it.
jessm78: Jared Padalecki: Mar 11 Van Airportjessm78 on May 21st, 2015 05:46 pm (UTC)
Yeah, honestly I do expect the Sam haters to insist that he started all this... I'm kinda seeing the parallels now between this finale and Lucifer Rising. *sigh* Not looking forward to that. And I'd expect them to perpetuate this seeing as I don't trust Carver and the writers as far as I can throw.

Oh, well... At least Sam will always have us to defend him.
Lady Korana: Sleeping Sammy w/bandaged handladykorana on May 21st, 2015 06:07 pm (UTC)
Yep, I'm already seeing the accusations of Sam starting two Apocalypses. *sigh*
alleysweeperalleysweeper on May 21st, 2015 03:33 am (UTC)
*But then he has to kill Sam? How exactly does that enter into it?*

Sam would never stop looking for a way to "cure" Dean of the Mark, even with Dean in a place where he could do no harm. And Dean was not willing to transfer the Mark, which holds back the darkness, to anyone else...if that makes any sense.

jessm78jessm78 on May 21st, 2015 03:37 am (UTC)
Oh okay, I see it now...I was so busy during that scene thinking "don't kill him, don't kill him!" that I wasn't pay as much attention as I should have, lol. Thanks.
alleysweeperalleysweeper on May 21st, 2015 03:56 am (UTC)
I don't get what happened with Rowena. She's had the Book and Codex long enough to use any spell in it. Why didn't she kick ass earlier?
cindylscindyls on May 21st, 2015 04:39 am (UTC)
So why can't Sam just promise never to try to free Dean of the mark? ;-) I mean, come on, I can hear the Sam haters now - 'he didn't look for Dean in Purgatory, he probably won't try to take the mark off anyway'. Sigh again.
alleysweeperalleysweeper on May 21st, 2015 05:30 am (UTC)
*So why can't Sam just promise never to try to free Dean of the mark?*

Sam already lied by omission by not telling Dean Castiel and Rowena were still working with the Book to rid Dean of the Mark. He never called to tell them to back off. Sam was willing to sacrifice his own life knowing others were likely to succeed in removing the Mark - even KNOWING the danger posed by the Darkness.

Truthfully, I think Sam did a good job of stalling for time. Not that he wasn't sincere in what he said, but the more time that passed, the more likely Rowena was to cast that spell.
cindylscindyls on May 21st, 2015 05:40 am (UTC)
Oh I totally agree with you, I was being snarky, sorry ;-) It's just that I have weathered 10 years of Samhate in the fandom in one way or another and I'm weary of it. Not to mention the way the writers ruined his character many times over the last few years...but at least in this episode, he did all that you said. But to be fair, he didn't know about the darkness til he showed up at Dean's cantina, do why couldn't he have said, whoa guys, even if you kill me, I got someone working to remove the mark, so let's talk this over for a second! All the time he was planning with Rowena, he didn't know the mark was a lock and key to the darkness cage, so he just wanted it off Dean. But I do realize that once Dean filled him in tonight, he still was willing to die knowing that after he was dead, Rowena may succeed before Death sent Dean into outer space (lol) and Dean would be safe. Now that I have typed that out, it is a bit confusing for me. Why would Sam want to die knowing it just may leave Dean alone in the world without the mark and with the Darkness released? Hmm. But maybe he figured Rowena would not be fast enough since Death was right there and would cast Dean away as soon as Sam was dead....my brain hurts ;-)
alleysweeperalleysweeper on May 21st, 2015 06:12 am (UTC)
*before Death sent Dean into outer space (lol)*

Ha! That was kinda silly. Would he have been a comet seen only on a clear, moonless, Friday the 13th between midnight and 3am? :P
darkdreams1222dreamsofspike on May 21st, 2015 04:07 am (UTC)
That spell Rowena put on Cas was the same one she used on the girl in an early S10 episode to make her attack the Winchesters, and on the college boys in the bar to make them attack Dean. So she put it on Cas and left him to kill Crowley. And that spell, if left in place, KILLS the person who's under it. Might work differently with Cas, being an angel. ... I don't want EITHER of them to die.

I was literally SOBBING when Sam was on his knees, showing Dean those pictures and waiting for his big brother to kill him. And I kinda knew without knowing, in a way - because it hit me: "If they do this, they are KILLING the show. Dean Winchester killing his little brother is the OPPOSITE of this Show. There is NO WAY he can do this and come back from it, EVER."

And then... he didn't. *huge sigh of relief*

But is it really possible for him to kill Death? REALLY kill Death? O.o That remains to be seen, I think.
jessm78jessm78 on May 21st, 2015 06:14 pm (UTC)
Ohhh, I'm remembering that now. Hmm, that's interesting. I guess we still don't know for sure if he actually did kill Crowley? We'll probably find out once the show returns. I wonder if it will be different for Cas since he's an angel. Of course they're going to leave us hanging!

Oh gosh, same here. I was thinking that and also thinking "he just CAN'T do this... they can't let this happen." I agree, there's no way he could ever come back from this.

That's my question as well. Thinking back to season 5, didn't Crowley tell Dean that Death could be killed with his own scythe? And then Dean attempted it but the scythe grew really hot when Death saw him try. I guess he was really caught off guard because he thought Dean was actually going to swing it at Sam and not him, so it worked.

But still, that question is still nagging at me... if it could REALLY be done.
redheadforeverredheadforever on May 21st, 2015 06:24 am (UTC)

Baby was the safest place they could be outside the bunker. She's warded twelve ways to Sunday and knows how to take care of Her Boys.
jessm78jessm78 on May 21st, 2015 05:47 pm (UTC)
Very good point! I can't believe I nearly forgot about that. *hugs Baby*
mosinging1986 on May 23rd, 2015 02:28 am (UTC)
Baby was the safest place they could be outside the bunker. She's warded twelve ways to Sunday and knows how to take care of Her Boys.

Oh, I didn't think about that!

Honestly, I couldn't think at all. The only thing going through my mind as I stopped and started the video and put it on Mute was, DON'T KILL HIM, DEAN! YOU CAN'T KILL HIM!


I commend anyone who watched it live. I can't bear to watch them hitting each other so I kept muting it and stopping it, especially at the final moment.

Ugh, stupid show! It wears me out!
mosinging1986 on May 22nd, 2015 01:55 am (UTC)
*closes eyes*

Haven't watched it yet because I'm scared! I swear, I need DAYS to work myself up to watching these finales.

TV shouldn't be this hard.
jessm78: Supernatural: Dean designated smartassjessm78 on May 22nd, 2015 01:03 pm (UTC)
That was my same reaction in the week leading up to this episode!

I think I felt this way throughout most of the episode too... though in the end I kinda breathed a sigh of relief.

Without spoiling, I'll just say that Jensen and Jared's comments about this episode hurting and being so much like Swan Song weren't exactly on the mark for me. I mean, yeah, I did see some elements of it, but I wasn't left at the end of this episode in the same way as Swan Song. I'd say the way I felt was comparable to the way I felt at the end of the season 4 finale.

Edited at 2015-05-22 01:07 pm (UTC)
mosinging1986 on May 23rd, 2015 12:50 am (UTC)


I had to watch it in preparation for this ep! Maybe now that I've smiled and laughed and danced I can handle it. Wish me luck.
mosinging1986 on May 23rd, 2015 02:23 am (UTC)
I spoiled myself! Sort of on accident but kind of on purpose. I couldn't stand it! I thought he was going to do it!

Yellowbulmayellowbulma on June 3rd, 2015 08:30 pm (UTC)
I like it better then then S9 final and at least Sam and Dean are together
jessm78jessm78 on June 3rd, 2015 08:53 pm (UTC)
Same here, hon. I'm so glad it ended with Sam and Dean together. I'd been so worried that Dean was going to kill Sam (though I thought they wouldn't dare do that, they would really invoke the wrath of fandom lol but sometimes you never know with Carver and these writers).