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07 October 2015 @ 10:27 pm
SPN #11x01 Out of the Darkness, Into the Fire (episode review)  
Here are some of my thoughts on this episode...

On the whole, I liked it. Maybe it was because I had set my expectations very low after last year (and season 9).

We open our "Then" with "Run Through the Jungle" by CCR. Throwback in a way to season 3! That song was used in Sin City, wasn't it?

I'm confused as to how Dean supposedly got out of Baby and had that conversation with The Darkness lady. Was he somehow ejected from the car? Sam appeared to have been knocked unconscious and remained in the car, but suddenly Dean is standing outside and facing her? Did I miss something?And how did she have the Mark of Cain? If Dean no longer has it, how is he connected to her? Unless...that spell Sam and Rowena did somehow transferred it to her?

Speaking of Sam, you knew I wasn't going to end this review without mentioning this, lol... Boy is lookin' GOOD. Guh, I don't know what the Darkness did to his hair, but I am very thankful. ;) That hair flying in the wind as he was running through the field to get to Dean (and in the hospital later)... *is mesmerized*

So Cas is kinda like Vamp!Cas thanks to Rowena's spell. Looks as if he won't be working with the Winchester's for a while. Though I wonder what he knows about this Darkness. I admit I groaned when those other angels showed up, but luckily that whole thing didn't last long. Just hope it won't be a huge part of this season.

Crowley had a woman meat suit for a while. Hmm. Yeah, that's about all I have to say about that. Lol. His henchmen later tell him that half of Hell is freaking out over the Darkness. Hmm, mention of Michael and Lucifer too...

Some of the spoilery articles mentioned that this ep could be kinda like the Walking Dead, and I guess I can see that a bit. Just one word about the female cop. Is it me, or did she seem a little...young? To me she looked like she could barely be in her very early 20s. Anyway, this whole situation reminded me of Croatoan a bit, especially the way Dean wanted to go out and fight off those people about to change. We can see his very narrow focus in the way he wants to save the baby. Sam wants to find a cure to help all those people. He asks Dean what happened to the two of them, and that they have to change. Aww, Sammy. <3 Of course he takes responsibility for unleashing the Darkness. And yeah, I know Dean agreed with that, but he did mention that he took on the Mark and I liked how they both emphasized that they both are responsible for this. Did anyone catch Dean's comment about the key and the lock?

Anyway, nice to see selfless Sammy staying behind so Dean can get the girl and the baby out safe, but oh noes, he looks like he's infected now. :( I really hope he will find a cure somehow. The thing that puzzles me is when those people were going to attack him in the storeroom and he told them he wants to help them...why did they suddenly back away? Did they somehow sense that he was infected so they'd just back off? Or could it be something else?

Finally we see that the baby also has the Mark. So this baby is somehow connected to the Darkness lady too?

So much to digest, but again I thought this was a good opener. Nice to see the boys together for once and more on the same page. I definitely liked it more than last year's, maybe even season 9's.
Angeliquevampirebites13 on October 8th, 2015 03:51 am (UTC)
Just my thoughts (and it's late, so I hope this all makes sense), but...

"The Darkness" is pure evil! Not a demon, or the devil, but the thing that taints their soul/spirit that makes them the bad guys! ;D It's what essentially caused Cain to kill his brother, which is why after finding a way to defeat it, God charged Cain with the job of keeping the "key" - The MOC - safe. She had the same mark, but on her it represents the "lock". By removing it, instead of Dean transferring it to someone else, the whole she-bang was finally unlocked, and blah, blah, blah... Now we're up to present day.

I think we're supposed to believe that the Darkness just kind of poofed Dean from the car in order to "save" him (and to talk to him so we'd get some of the story filled in)... :D

In reference to The Walking Dead, I believe that the 3 Infected left Sam alone because they could smell the blood on him, and because of that knew or assumed he'd become infected, too.

Could it be that the baby IS the Darkness (lady) - maybe even "reborn" if you will - because if you listen to what the DL says to Dean, she tells him that he will always protect her (and she him), and Dean's seemingly only, or primary concern, right off the bat, was to save the baby!

Now, my question is... If Cas really stabbed Crowley with the Angel blade - my guess is that his essence escaped before the stabbing (even though it looked to me like the other way around), or the Angel blade just couldn't kill him - but how was it that he could go back to his original meat-suit (Fergus)? And if the blade couldn't really hurt him that much to begin with, then why change meat-suits at all...???

I love all the thinky-thoughts that SHOW makes me have!!! :D

jessm78: Supernatural: AHBL Sam and Deanjessm78 on October 8th, 2015 02:27 pm (UTC)
Oh, that totally makes sense now - thanks! (I was watching with a headache last night, so I might have glossed over some stuff)

Ah, yeah, I could buy that :D

That was kind of my thought process, just didn't know if there was anything else they were implying.

Ooh, that's an interesting thought. You could be right about that! What was with that name "Amara" that Mike blurted out right before he died - did he say that was the baby's name? In one of the spoilery articles I read on this episode, they mentioned something about a new character with that name (I think they said she was either supposed to be The Darkness or someone involved in it). If that's supposed to be the baby, then it makes sense that she could be Darkness reborn. And that does tie in to Dean wanting to save her like that!

I'm very curious about that as well. I couldn't figure that out, it did look like his essence escaped after the stabbing to me. I'm a bit confused as to the whole angel blade thing - does it kill only angels, or can it kill demons as well? This whole time I thought only a demon blade would be able to kill Crowley. I don't understand how he'd be able to go back to his meat-suit either. Was he somehow "proofed" against being destroyed? Hopefully we will find out somehow!

Same here!
Angeliquevampirebites13 on October 8th, 2015 10:16 pm (UTC)
After thinking about Crowley, maybe it was just that at first I remember, he said something about Cas not being able to hurt him (when Cas was charging at him in the very beginning), so once he figured out that may not be the case (after the stabbing) he decided to be safe rather than sorry and get the hell on outta there. Then, after the coast was clear, he always planned to come back and reclaim his body...?!?

*looks around questioningly and waits impatiently for next week*
 Late Night Drops of Random: *Iz Random* made for me-don't take!moondropz on October 8th, 2015 07:25 am (UTC)
I am full of the same questions! But Sam! And Dean! Together and as you said on the same page for once!
Missed you! How are you doing these days?
jessm78: Jensen Ackles: You Rock from CC'10jessm78 on October 8th, 2015 02:29 pm (UTC)
Me tooo!! I loved that, honestly, it was a breath of fresh air from some of the previous seasons, especially last season.

Missed you too, hon! Been thinking about you. I'm doing pretty well! I've got 2 part-time jobs that keep me very busy every so often (today is one of the "quieter" days, but I don't mind -get to spend more time with the pups!). How are you doing??

 Late Night Drops of Random: Sadie Bugmoondropz on October 8th, 2015 04:07 pm (UTC)
It was for me as well. Last season was really dark-I had a hard time with that.

I was thinking of you as well! I'm glad you're doing alright and keeping busy! How are the pups doing? I need to see some of their pictures. :)
*Hugs you*
freya922freya922 on October 8th, 2015 09:39 am (UTC)
I assumed two things: those people backed off because of Sam's demon blood...and that baby is going to grow up fast into the Darkness (i.e. The woman Dean saw). Time will tell!
jessm78jessm78 on October 8th, 2015 02:31 pm (UTC)
Ooh, actually the demon blood thing was a thought I'd had... maybe it was a combination of that and the fact they saw the blood on him and thought he was already infected (I guess that's their endgame, to get everyone infected)?
Yellowbulmayellowbulma on October 8th, 2015 04:55 pm (UTC)
I thought the baby was the woman Dean meets in the Darkness?!

jessm78jessm78 on October 8th, 2015 05:41 pm (UTC)
I think you're right - or even the Darkness "reborn" or something like that. The way she said that she and Dean are "connected" (or whatever it was), it would make sense that he'd keep insisting to Sam how he has to save her.
Yellowbulmayellowbulma on October 10th, 2015 12:48 am (UTC)
Not sure how I feel about the darkness girl just yet and the whole "connection" with Dean. If she is the baby and she grows fast, like Dean's daughter it's still going to be weird if she becomes a love interest for Dean.

Also I know it's only been one ep and the Mark is still part of the story but fuck again I am so over the MOC storyline. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Sam's hair looked so much better in the new ep then it did all S10. I'm thinking Sam's demon blood protects him or makes the change slower then normal. Cause it does look like he starts feeling effect's of it in 11x02.

The Castiel and Crowley scene's (mostly the Castiel scene's) where boring and I don't give a fuck about what useless "side" characters are doing. The whole cutting away from Sam and Dean every couple mins to see Castiel running around like Bennyhill is already annoying as fuck.

All in all it was good in some place's and boring in others (Castiel) also seeing the same scenes over and over again. -__-

Still better then 10x01
jessm78: Jared Padalecki: Friday 13th textlessjessm78 on October 10th, 2015 01:09 am (UTC)
Ugh, I hope she's not going to become a love interest for Dean. :/

Yeah, I'm kinda over that storyline now too. It looks like they've tied it to this whole Darkness thing though, so we'll probably see it referenced more...*sigh* Hopefully not too much, though.

Totally agree about Sam's hair. I remember Jared saying something about the demon blood in some interview (maybe from Comic Con?) so that would make sense.

Yeah, I hate when there are all these separate "threads" in the episodes, especially when they don't really interest me. As soon as I saw the angels with Castiel I was like "oh crap not again", I'm just glad it didn't last as long as I thought it would.

Oh absolutely, I liked it quite a bit more than 10x01.
darkdreams1222dreamsofspike on October 10th, 2015 12:26 am (UTC)
I'm pretty sure the Darkness just teleported Dean out of the car so they could talk. She's supposed to be super powerful, more than anything they've ever faced, so I guess she could do that. :P

I think that Mark represents the original, ultimate evil. I think she probably had it FIRST. Because she has/had it is probably why those charged with keeping her imprisoned (Lucifer, Cain, Dean) have that specific Mark, because it IS tied to her. Basically I'm saying I don't think she got it when Dean lost it. I think she's probably ALWAYS had it.

I definitely got the Walking Dead vibe, and I hadn't seen any spoilery articles, so I think that got across well. :P

The baby IS the Darkness. That's what I think they were getting at. She was "born" into a physical form when the boys released her. She appeared to Dean in a form he would find appealing, but that isn't her actual physical body, her BODY is that little baby, Amara. And I think that's why Dean was so laser focused on protecting her, too. Like she told him, they're "bound". She told him that no matter "where I am, WHO I am" he would protect/help her.

WHO she is. That's a clue.

And Dean definitely did protect/help her. :/

Very insightful thoughts, I loved this episode too and can't wait for more! :)
jessm78jessm78 on October 10th, 2015 01:05 am (UTC)
Yeah, I'm now thinking that's what probably happened. It would seem that she is powerful enough to do something like that.

That makes a lot of sense. And I guess she is tied to Dean then because he had it at one time.

Thanks for putting it all into perspective, it definitely makes a lot more sense than it did right after I watched it for the first time (I had a headache at the time, too, so that made it even harder for me to follow everything, LOL).

Thanks, same here!
luk70luk70 on October 10th, 2015 10:45 pm (UTC)
Good chapter in general,interesting things were raised.
Good thing they didn’t do a leap in time, the continuation time / events is important, but otherwise many important things are lost.
Important intereaccion between the brothers, it was time for the show to focus on them and not on the secondary characters. But again half-truths?that was never good, Dean must have told all that he speak with The Darkness to Sam and I hope Sam says Dean he is infected. I guess Sam infection is to force them to seek a cure because Dean was not convinced to seek one.
Cass, Crowley, Rowena, Angels, all secondary characters, they always have been filling characters for me, which unfortunately have been given too much importance.
The darkness and the baby, we’ll see where it all ends, they can have a good future or fall by the wayside as has happened before with other stories-line.