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08 February 2008 @ 04:40 pm
Supernatural #3.10 Dream a Little Dream of Me (episode review)  
So I'm feeling a lot better today (finally!) and thought I'd celebrate with another episode review. Hee...
Warning, this is a bit long.  Oh yeah, and I've also included some overall thoughts on the season in another cut... that were sparked by a discussion on one of the forums. There's nothing really spoilery about them, but I put them behind a cut 'cause it's a bit long.  If you are interested, please give them a read.

Wow, this episode was intense... and trippy... and freaky... all rolled into one.  In no particular order:

I LOVED that we learned more about Bobby, more of his backstory and how he got into hunting.  I loved how Dean and Sam came to his rescue and how Dean tried to get him to wake up - how he told Bobby he's like a father to him.

A little break for shallow stuff:  Not only did I think both boys looked particularly edible in this ep, teehee, but I literally squeeeee'd when the episode opened with the Doobie Brothers' "Long Train Running."  I absolutely LOVE that song.

Anyway...

I found Bela to be quite cringe-worthy in this ep. I mean, come on. First we have Sam dreaming of hot steamy sex with her.... I was actually going "NOOOOOOOOOOO!" during that scene. Though I have to admit his reaction after he woke up was hilarious.  I dunno though, I thought that little scene was pretty pointless.  I know they were aiming for a few cheap laughs, but..... yeah, didn't serve to move the actual plot forward.

And she stole the colt.  Sheesh...

Loved the part when the boys were first drinking that tea and Sam puts some of Bobby's hair in it, saying they have to drink it to enter the person's dreams and taste a part of their body... Loved Dean's "at least it's just hair and not some other part of the body." Heh...

Some very nice scenery when Sam exits the house. I just loved the lighting and coloring in those scenes. Just another plus of them shooting in HD this year, I guess.

Hmmm... did anyone think that Dean would actually drink the beer that Jeremy had spiked with the root? A bit careless there, no? 

Okay, I have to go into detail a bit about this next part because it seems a bit controversial among fans.  At a few of the Supernatural forums where I post, people have been saying that Dean's character is now destroyed, wrecked, he's now some poor insecure slob - no longer the strong, stoic guy, etc.  I'm talking about the part where he's talking to the vision of himself who keeps telling him that he doesn't have an original thought of his own, that he's nothing and he has nothing without Sam, that he's "dad's blunt little instrument," etc.  And then Dean lashes out at... himself... saying that Dad did nothing to protect the family, he didn't protect their mom, he wasn't there for Sam; that Dean himself did it all; that Dad was obsessed; and, finally, that he doesn't want to go to Hell. 

Now, I personally did not see this as Dean's character being wrecked.  We've seen little glimpses of this sort of thing before.  Wasn't it in AHBL Part 2 where he told Bobby he made the deal to save Sam so that at least his life could mean something? Bobby told him "and it didn't before? Do you have that low an opinion of yourself?"  If people are complaining that Dean isn't the strong, stoic guy anymore, we've seen hints in the more recent episodes that his facade is starting to crack; he is scared about going to Hell.  Sam has seen it himself and has told Dean (see Fresh Blood for example).  We saw more evidence of it in the last episode also, that he is becoming afraid and doesn't want to end up in Hell.  He asked Ruby at the end if there was a way for him to avoid The Pit.  I personally could see him getting a bit scared about it.

So, no, I don't think Dean's character is ruined or wrecked. I just think that the facade has cracked and we're seeing some vulnerabilities coming out.  That doesn't ruin the character for me personally.  If anyone has any other views or opinions on it, then you are more than welcome to it.  But this is just how I see it personally.

Getting back to the rest of the episode... It was a bit freaky how after Dean shot the vision of himself, the guy turned into a demon and practically shrieked at him "THIS is what you will become!"

I love how Sam went in there with him, so it would be two of them against Jeremy - and love how he tricked Jeremy when the guy had him down... hmmm possible use of his psychic powers there? (just thinking about what Bobby asked him at the end)

And yes, Dean finally admits to Sam at the end that he doesn't want to die.  Sam tells him they'll find a way to get him out of it.  Again I don't see this as Dean's character being ruined.  But that's just me.

The preview for next week's ep (Mystery Spot) looks really intense, too.... I can just see all the Sam Angst we're going to get.  Looking forward to it.

And now some thoughts on S3 overall.  At a few of the boards where I post, people complain that the show is jumping the shark this year, that it's nowhere near as good as it was in S1, and that things feel very "off."  They hate the girls, they hate the lack of brotherly scenes in the car going after some urban legend or other, they hate the way both boys have changed, etc. etc.  A few arguments have sparked because of it.  I've been involved in arguments and flame wars on other boards in other fandoms before, and I have no intention of getting in the middle of this one.  However, I would like to air some of my own thoughts.

Everyone is entitled to their opinions.  If you don't like the way the show is going, then fine.  I've been a fan of multiple shows that I've felt have gone downhill after a certain period of time.  The fellow Stargate fans on my f-list should know this fact well, LOL. ;) I sometimes air my anti- thoughts, but I do it in the appropriate places, such as anti- threads on forums like GW (though lately I haven't had much to say about it). 

Getting back to Supernatural - I'm still a relatively new fan. I only started watching just over a year ago.  My first episode that I saw was Playthings.  And that wasn't even the whole ep.  First ep I saw in totality was Roadkill.  Not long after S2 finished airing I bought the S1 DVD set.  So even though I'm still a pretty new fan, I've seen all the episodes to date.  I agree that S3 does seem quite different from S1 and even S2 a bit.  For one thing, we have no more YED, who was a big driving force in the first 2 seasons.  S1 was mostly made up of urban legend type of investigations, though we did start seeing more of the arc involving the boys, their Dad, Sam's visions and the YED.  S2 was a continuation of that and the boys trying to go it alone in the wake of Dad's death.  S3 does seem a bit darker and edgier (and I think we'll all agree that it's been a bit gorier as well).  Yes, the boys have changed, especially Sam.  He's become darker but also a bit more mature.  There is definitely a big difference between the S1 Sam and S3 Sam (and I'm not just talking about the hair... thinking of those of you who were yelling "bring back the bangs!" ;) Yeah I miss them too but I see how the hair off the forehead adds to his more mature look and I'm not really complaining too much).  And there does appear to be a bit of a role reversal. In S2 it was mostly Dean looking out for Sam and trying to save him. Now it's Sam trying to save Dean.  I like the fact that we see how devoted he is to his brother, as he'd said at the end of AHBL Pt. 2 "I don't care what it takes, I'm going to get you out of this."

Yes, I haven't been all that crazy about the girls either.  Well, at least Bela. I was very wary at the start of the summer when the news came out that they were adding 2 female regulars to the cast.  I didn't want them to take away from the brotherly scenes our boys have together, that Dean would spend the majority of his scenes with one girl, and Sam the majority of his scenes with the other, and we'd barely see them together.  I didn't want to see more episodes like No Exit.  But I took a wait-and-see attitude about the whole thing.  While I wasn't too impressed with Ruby at the very beginning (her cocky attitude bugged me somewhat) I think her character has become pretty interesting.  Even though I'm not totally in love with her, I think she has at least some use in the story.  Bela on the other hand really bugs me. There were times that she's seemed to be little more than a Mary Sue.  Whenever I re-watch Red Sky At Morning, I usually fast-forward through most of her scenes.  If she's used in VERY small doses, I don't mind too much, but usually when she's around it means the boys (especially Dean it seems) are dumbed down for her sake.

I guess that being a relatively new fan doesn't make my opinion matter too much, but I'm still enjoying the show. I recognize how it's changed.  There are little things here and there that I have issues with, but I'm trying to look past them and enjoy the more positive aspects of each new episode that I see.  I can't say that I enjoy it more or less than the previous two seasons. I still enjoy it, but in a different way.

So, those are my thoughts on the whole thing. YMMV. And if you have any comments/thoughts/criticisms, etc. you'd like to add, please feel free.
 
 
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deej1957deej1957 on February 8th, 2008 08:43 pm (UTC)
very nice, well-thought out review, as were your comments on S3 overall and the "war" in fandom. One would wish everyone else was as sensible!

Fellow Stargate fan here, too, btw...

jessm78: Sam grinningjessm78 on February 9th, 2008 01:58 am (UTC)
Thanks so much! I really am trying to keep out of the fandom "war." I'm glad you found my comments sensible! :)

And nice to meet a fellow Stargate fan too. :D
Akriti's Lalaland: Chasedm_hpcrazy on February 8th, 2008 09:01 pm (UTC)
OHMYGOD!! ARE U KIDDING ME>?! awesomess *high fives* now to why :P

I'm still a relatively new fan. I only started watching just over a year ago. My first episode that I saw was Playthings.
And that wasn't even the whole ep.
Same Here!!! *okay yea that makes me a little too happy*

and ur Ruby and Bella views, i agree i like Ruby, i liked her from like her flighty appearance in the season3 premiere, but Bella, it was like can she leave, like now!
during the dream sequence, to which i really dont get the point - even with the cheap laugh thing, its like naaahhh
but yea.. and everyones opinion counts :D
jessm78: AHBLjessm78 on February 9th, 2008 02:02 am (UTC)
Hee!! Very, very cool. :D And nice to know I'm not the only one who isn't thrilled with Bela.

I guess they needed some kind of cheap laugh type of thing as a break from all the intensity of the other scenes, but yeah... that was not really my cup of tea (though Sam's reaction afterwards...still can't help grinning at that).

Yup, everyone's entitled to their opinions! *high fives back*
Akriti's Lalaland: Shahiddm_hpcrazy on February 9th, 2008 02:15 am (UTC)
Sweet~! lol, no there are quite a few who don't like Bela, and shooting Sam didnt help her ahaha and then messing with metallicar
*tsk*

i guess, but still lol why not Ruby lol
His reaction was like PRICELESSS..i was like o.O DROOL!! lol and then hi bela, hows it giong (or soemthing like htat) lol ♥ sam!!
and then deans reaction after sams like nice seeing ya bela XD but still not liking bela!

*hugs* hope u like hugs from strangers lol
jessm78: Sam grinningjessm78 on February 9th, 2008 02:00 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I think that about sums it up for me...

lol, that is a good point. ;) Sam's reaction for the win! :D

Nah, don't mind at all... and technically I don't think we are strangers anymore - well, cyber-strangers (er...virtual strangers?) anyway, lol
Akriti's Lalaland: samdm_hpcrazy on February 9th, 2008 02:29 pm (UTC)
we are from the internet, we are made of awesome! :P


Lady Manson: spn fanfic gifladymanson on February 8th, 2008 09:42 pm (UTC)
Oh, I'm not the only one who loved the Doobie Brothers song in the opening. My husband and were like, "SWEET!". Great choice.

Thank God there's others out their that share similar opinions about the girls. I remember when it was first announced and I honestly could have cared less about if they added the girls or not because the writing is good. The writers aren't going to write characters that will destroy the huge fan base they have. I don't think people thought about that too much. The only reason I still like Bela is because I think having a bitch in a show adds for some good drama. That and I love her accent.

And Dean with the black eyes? Wow, some of us look scarier with those than others! Scared the hell out of me.
jessm78: Hollywood Babylonjessm78 on February 9th, 2008 02:05 am (UTC)
Heh... I love your avatar. :)

There really hasn't been a whole lot of cool classic rock songs appearing in this season (which I guess means they aren't able to secure the rights to a lot of it?), so it was really nice to see it... and the song itself was a great bonus for me.

Yeah, even though I was a bit wary on the news, I trusted the writers so I just had a more "wait and see" attitude.

Dean with the demon eyes did creep me out (and the specks of blood on his face), especially in the flash at that final scene before the credits rolled.
lovetheguyslovetheguys on February 8th, 2008 10:32 pm (UTC)
Excellent review. You're really smart and have a good head on your shoulders. I like that. I love SUPERNATURAL this year. I knew it was going to change because, as you pointed out, the YED was dead and we were turning to a whole new storyline. I welcomed the girls because I feel Sam and Dean need to interact with other people, especially in the new, demon-cluttered world they're facing. I like both gals, as a matter of fact, and the Bela/Sam sex scene was one highlight of last night's ep for me. It was all just hilarious--but it was also Sam displaying that his PSYCHIC powers are returning! When Bela really did show up, what followed (minus the sex) was almost word for word what was said in his dream. And Sam hasn't gotten laid since Madison; who can blame the poor boy for having a sex dream, even with Bela as his co-star? I think he has a bit of a crush on her, wrong as it may be, but she has SCREWED the boys out of so many things, perhaps this was Sam's dreamy effort to SCREW her back! Love, Robin
jessm78: Hollywood Babylonjessm78 on February 9th, 2008 02:09 am (UTC)
Thanks for the kind words, Robin! :) I've really tried to be objective in my reviews and other random thoughts on the show. I did love the way Sam reacted after that scene... and that is a great point about the forshadowing of Sam's psychic powers returning. On the second viewing I paid special attention to those scenes, and when she showed up for real and Dean let her in, the same thing pretty much happened. That WAS cool.

Thanks for sharing your interpretation! :)
chloe_amethyst: SPN Sam's diary by kroki_refurchloe_amethyst on February 8th, 2008 11:11 pm (UTC)
Hey there! I followed your link over here to your very thoughtful review. :-) I completely agree with what you write about Dean's character. Stoic and strong upfront can hide a world of hurt behind it. And we've seen glimpses of this fact going all the way back to Season 1. How quickly people forget, perhaps because the evidence was so much more subtle back then. But it has been Jensen's subtleness and sureness when acting that made those little moments of Dean's personal angst and self-doubt stand out for me in 1 & 2. I also think too much of fandom only sees things as black or white. When you get to be as old as I am, you learn that most everything is some shade of grey. You can be strong and hurting, absurdly cocky and filled with a powerful sense of loss, etc. That's the way real people are in the world, so I applaud the show for that.

The thing is, the show kind of flung it hard in everyone's face last night because the subtle went out the window. Thinking about it, that's appropriate, because freaky, unsubtle stuff comes out in dreams all the time. Which brings me to...

I loved the Bela dream sequence and did see a purpose for it. 1) bringing in the humor was important for balance as the episode was so angst heavy; 2) it illustrated very well how we normally have zero control over our dreams. People dream about having sex all the time with all manner of people--a parent, their most hated teacher, animals, whatever. I think the scene served as a great reminder of that compared to the controlled, directed dreaming world the boys were trying to enter.

Re: season 3. There is definitely a different feel. It's way more emotional and less about tracking down legends and such. There's both good and bad in that. Plus, the characters have to develop in some way. Maybe it's not in the way everyone would like, but stagnant characters get dull pretty quickly. SPN's writers have always had balls, and their advancing of the characters is a reflection of that. Besides, there were good and bad episodes in seasons 1 and 2 as well, and this season is that way too.

Thanks so much for your review! Enjoyed it!
eomir: tele: spn: swayze that mothaeomir on February 8th, 2008 11:24 pm (UTC)
Just had to say that we both just commented with very similar points about Dean. :)
chloe_amethystchloe_amethyst on February 9th, 2008 12:54 am (UTC)
Good ol' Dean. He's gotten very complex, which is terrific.
Brandi: spn - ewrupertgsnum1fan on February 9th, 2008 01:44 am (UTC)
I gotta say, I wonder about that dream.
She was bringing the dreamroot, so that means she took and infiltrated so she could at least make one of the boys not overly suspicious of her...?
cuz that's totally what I'm getting from it and I'm wondering if I'm way far off or something...
chloe_amethyst: SPN Poetry Corner by kroki_refurchloe_amethyst on February 9th, 2008 02:53 am (UTC)
That's possible because wasn't the last conversation Dean had with Bela him saying that next time he saw her he would kill her? Maybe she needed to get into Sam's head so one brother would be amenable, less suspicious if she lifted anything, and prevent Dean from killing her.:-D Who knows with this show.*shrugs*
jessm78: Hollywood Babylonjessm78 on February 9th, 2008 02:02 pm (UTC)
I gotta agree... that's a very interesting point. Hmmm...! It could very well be. I don't think I can count anything out with this show.
jessm78: Sam grinningjessm78 on February 9th, 2008 02:17 am (UTC)
Okay, first off, I have to say I LOVE your avatar. Hee!!

Second, I'm glad you enjoyed my review, and thanks for commenting! You've presented some very interesting thoughts. I totally agree - Dean is quite a complex character, maybe more complex than some might give him credit for. As a person who's been quite used to seeing things in black and white, I've learned that every situation is different, and there can be all sorts of shades of gray in life. Not everything is absolute (and this is coming from a soon-to-be-30-year-old...heh...).

When you put it that way, I guess some of the reactions I've read make a bit of sense... the way subtle pretty much went out the window and we were all hit with this hard. Maybe it was a bit too much for some people. It made sense to me, going back over everything I've seen involving the character over the course of the series.

Interesting comments on the dream sequence, and that is an interesting way of looking at it. Plus I did notice how after Sam woke up and Bela visited them for real, it played out pretty much the same exact way it did in his dream (up to her removing her coat of course).

I really don't have many complaints about season 3. For the most part, I've been enjoying what I've seen so far. I've had some issues here and there, but overall I'm liking it and trying to remain as objective as I can.

Again I'm glad you liked my review, and thanks for commenting!
chloe_amethyst: SPN Poetry Corner by kroki_refurchloe_amethyst on February 9th, 2008 02:57 am (UTC)
The Sam dream may indeed be hinting that Sammy's still got powers lurking in that big ol' brain of his. With this show, you can tie yourself in knots trying to figure out all the possibilities. :-D
jessm78: Hollywood Babylonjessm78 on February 9th, 2008 02:02 pm (UTC)
So true, isn't it.

*loves this show* :D
eomir: tele: spn: dean in pieceseomir on February 8th, 2008 11:21 pm (UTC)
Some very excellent thoughts there.

I for one loathe Bella. Like you said, at least Ruby has a purpose in the story, she's there to move some of the myth along. Bella on the other hand is there, seemingly, to make the boys look like fools. When have they ever continued to put up the kind of garbage she pulls? They wouldn't let this go on with any other character. Her parts in the story make them look like they don't know what they are doing and honestly at this point I could care less what her back story is because I just want her off the show.

Now as for Dean, if people feel they've ruined the character than they only saw him as one dimensional in the first place. People are made up many different elements and aren't either tough or soft, strong or sensitive and so on. I've always thought that Dean harbored some bit of resentment towards his father. He hasn't had a normal life in the least and that would hurt anyone. I love getting more and more into the mind of Dean. I love him more knowing that he has insecurities and has some anger about the ones he loves. He's more fully realized to me.

I like when my shows evolve and don't stay the same ol' story every season. This show is realistic and in real life people change and environments change.

Anyway, sorry for that long comment, I just wanted to say I agree. :)
Brandi: spn - dean needs to talkrupertgsnum1fan on February 9th, 2008 01:41 am (UTC)
hehe, I just have to say: Exactly! :D
jessm78: AHBLjessm78 on February 9th, 2008 02:09 pm (UTC)
Thank you!

That's the thing that has really been my major beef with Bela. It almost seems as if the boys are dumbed down for her sake. I was seriously doubting that they'd actually leave the Colt in the room like that. Wouldn't they be more likely to leave it in the trunk of the Impala?

I think you nailed it there. There are many more layers to Dean than we're used to seeing on the surface. I agree as far as him having some type of resentment toward his father. I think we got to see that come out in little bits and pieces here and there, like in IMTOD and then after he finally told Sam about what John told him at the end of that episode (was it in "Hunted" that Sam told him he had no right to keep that secret from him, and Dean kind of exploded about John telling him, saying "what kind of crap is that to lay on your kids"?).

Anyway, I love that we're getting to see more of these facets of Dean, seeing more of what's going on inside his head. I definitely think change is inevitable in any show, and I don't really have any complaints about this one.

No problem about the long comment. :) Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
Brandi: spn - demon!dean snaprupertgsnum1fan on February 9th, 2008 01:40 am (UTC)
oh, dude, I totally agree with your feelings on pretty much all of this. XD
I really don't understand how Dean's character could be wrecked...this was all in there all the time. I dunno how many people didn't notice, but it's something the YED brought up in "Devil's Trap." All the way back in Season 1 - we know demons lie, but we also know that they tell pieces of the truth to make things really creeptastic - which Dean relayed to Jo in "Born Under A Bad Sign" last year, so I'm surprised so many people see this as a bad/new thing... I think it gives Dean even more depth.

And personally, I'm a fan of darkness for some reason. The dark feel this season has had about it, I've really enjoyed. And no, it's not the same as season 1 or 2, and it shouldn't be. That would be lame. I think the show is really good at reinventing itself each season and it not being terrible or something you want to end (like, personally, Smallville - which I wish would just stop before it gets worse, but that's just me). I also like the girls...love to hate Bela...and Ruby is pretty wicked.

But everyone has their own opinions, and that's cool. I just sometimes wish people would open up a little more. Oh well though. Happy watching!
jessm78: Dean is Batmanjessm78 on February 9th, 2008 02:15 pm (UTC)
Oh, cool, I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels this way. :) I agree, I think it was all brewing under the surface all this time. We didn't get to see a whole lot of it at first, just little peeks here and there. I guess now that a lot of it has come out on the surface, it's freaked some people out. I totally agree w/your assessment... it's nothing new to me and I like how it's given Dean some more depth.

I really don't have any complaints about the darkness either. I think the way things were set up towards the end of the season last year, it was bound to go that way (with the upcoming war, Sam trying to save Dean from going to hell, etc.).

Any issues I have with the show this year are pretty small potatoes and I've been focusing more on the positive aspects (and I hear you about Smallville - I felt nearly the same way about Stargate SG-1 in its last year, but yeah that's just me too).

Thanks so much for commenting. :)
vixen_logic: Sarasmile2vixen_logic on February 9th, 2008 06:31 pm (UTC)
Yay that you're feeling better!! :D
jessm78: Sam grinningjessm78 on February 10th, 2008 02:33 pm (UTC)
*huggles* Thanks hon :D It took a while but I'm glad to be better finally!