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17 February 2016 @ 10:27 pm
SPN #11x14 The Vessel (episode review)  
Um, okay, here are my thoughts. Hope these make sense...

The title of this episode of course refers not only to a sea-faring vessel (as in the submarine) but also to Cas being Lucifer's vessel.

We delve into more Men of Letters lore, with all the Nazi/WWII stuff and the Hand of God. I did enjoy seeing Dean go back in time and wearing that uniform (*grin*), but of course can't help being disappointed that Sam never gets to go (and Sam himself didn't seem too happy about that either). Although how would he be able to pass himself off with his long hair, unless he hid it somehow or....*cries*...shaved it off. It was annoying having to see him basically play babysitter to Casifer. He done good in the end, though, and I'll come back to that.

Speaking of Casifer, he still makes me cringe. I actually felt bad for Crowley for a little while there. I thought Casifer's petting him and calling him "doggie" was over the top. And his facial expressions...first the creepy smile when Dean was telling Sam he needed to stay behind, and then the cheesy grin or whatever when he finally revealed to Dean (the "cat's outta the bag" line) who he was just made me LOL at how painfully bad they were.

The girl Dauphne (Daphne? However it's spelled), I really liked her character and how she decided to sacrifice herself for all of them. The guy who was keeping an eye on Dean & asking all the questions about the future...is it me, or did that actor look very familiar? He looks like he was in at least one other SPN episode. Maybe not, but he seems very familiar to me.

Sam wants so badly to save Dean, and apparently "Cas" needs to touch his soul. Ugh, I feel like I want to smack Casifer for duping them all this time to begin with. And Sam's face (and near tears?) when he realizes it's Lucifer... :( After touching Sam's soul, was that really Cas trying to hold off Luci like Sam did in Swan Song before he leaped into the pit? I guess it was, and I'm sorry but what he said to Sam just makes him look like such a coward for having said yes to Luci to begin with. I'm actually glad the Hand of God was good for only one use, even if it might've seemed a bit convenient. And I love how Sam still managed to save Dean by transporting Casifer away with the blood sigil. Go Sam!

Nice little brother moment at the end on a dock. Dean doesn't want to talk about the whole thing, and he still seems unhappy about the fact that the submarine sank after all.

That's about all I've got on this one. Maybe I'll have more thoughts on it upon rewatching.
 
 
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mosinging1986 on February 18th, 2016 06:27 pm (UTC)
I loved this one! For one, I love the Men of Letters stuff and all the old books and research and all of that. I'm a book dork like Sam, so I could watch that all day!

I've also always appreciated the moral clarity of the WWII/Nazi era. These people were evil and needed to be stopped at any cost. Everyone knew that. There was no moral ambiguity about that. I think it matches the boys as well. They may screw up sometimes and even cross lines they shouldn't cross, but in the end, we always know they are on the side of what is good and right. I love them for that.

I liked Delphine and wished we could've learned more about her. But if she had to go, I am glad she sacrificed herself instead of Dean having to kill her. The last thing this poor guy needs is more guilt upon him. I was so relieved he wasn't forced to do it.

Dean was sad that everyone died, but you could tell in his eyes and that half smile at the end that he was proud of them all and happy that the German boat sank as well. At least their sacrifices were not in vain.

I'm a bit lost on how the Nazi boyfriend was still alive? Some sort of magic-y/demon-y thing going on? I missed a bit of dialogue or something at that point. I will have to rewatch it.

And I'm glad the Casifer (hee!) secret's finally out of the bag. Misha playing Mark Pellegrino playing Lucifer playing Cas was really painful. I don't think Misha did a poor job imitating him, but you could tell he was overdoing it, just trying TOO hard. But I can't blame him too much because that sort of thing is extremely difficult. Mark P. is a master at playing evil and snarky at the same time. You never know if he's going to offer a smart remark or kill you right there. But it's subtle, the way he does it. It's pretty near impossible to imitate that, and do it well.


Edited at 2016-02-18 09:33 pm (UTC)
jessm78: Supernatural: Sam grinning in TKAAjessm78 on February 19th, 2016 12:15 am (UTC)
I rewatched it today and I really did find myself liking it a lot more than I expected to. Hee, I'm a research nut so that stuff is right up my alley, too.

That's a great parallel to the boys. It makes a lot of sense to me.

Basically a big "ditto" to all your comments. :) I was a bit confused on how the Nazi guy was still alive. I thought maybe I didn't hear him right either. When she said she killed him... I can't even remember what I thought I heard him say, but it sounded like something supernatural was involved in him being revived.

Yeah, honestly I don't know how long they would have been able to keep that going. Surely the boys would catch on that there was something not right about him. Sam did do a double-take when Casifer said he "lost it" and then corrected himself to say he "lost Dean." YES, that's my main problem with it. He was trying too hard. I thought Mark P and Jared had both done a great job as Lucifer back in season 5, and I guess it's some big shoes to fill. Someone else online said something interesting: that the way Misha seems to play Lucifer is not quite the way he was back in season 5, but more like the way he was when he was a hallucination of Sam's back in season 7. I have to rewatch that season, but I think I get the gist of what they're saying.
mosinging1986 on February 19th, 2016 01:20 am (UTC)
that the way Misha seems to play Lucifer is not quite the way he was back in season 5, but more like the way he was when he was a hallucination of Sam's back in season 7.

Wow, some people are more obsess-, er, observant than we are! I was thinking of doing a series rewatch anyway, so I will have to keep that in mind.
jessm78jessm78 on February 20th, 2016 02:31 pm (UTC)
I vaguely remembered something about Lucifer in those hallucinations acting like he had overdosed on caffeine, lol.
mosinging1986 on February 20th, 2016 04:23 pm (UTC)
Ha!
Yellowbulma: Sam - It's on bitch.yellowbulma on February 20th, 2016 12:44 pm (UTC)
meh
Misha and Carver are just ruining Lucifer for me. Cas!Lucifer scenes are just awful to watch with Misha's God awful acting. I mean that face he makes when he says "The Cat's outta the bag."

He is as unpleasant to look at as to listen too.

And I know Caver doesn't like Canon and is oh so desperate to be like Eric. (how many times as he try and failed to copie Swan song? and now again with Castiel takening back control from Lucifer. Yeah Eric and Jared did it so much better.) So now Lucifer doesn't need his true vessel? So all that build up and talk about only Sam could be Lucifer's vessel and Micheal's Vessel had to be Sam's brother Dean/Adam. But an angel is fine?

Sigh I was so happy When I found out Mark/Lucifer was coming back. Little did I know that it would be used to give Castiel a story-line and Misha would ruin my 2nd fav villain.



jessm78: Supernatural: Sam pouting (3x06)jessm78 on February 20th, 2016 02:30 pm (UTC)
Re: meh
I'm so glad you brought this up because this was something that's really been bugging me as well. After all the emphasis on how Sam is supposed to be Lucifer's one true vessel, now it supposedly doesn't matter? I mean, how would they try to explain this, that Lucifer got hurt that Sam wouldn't give in to him, ditched him and thought "oh well, I guess this will do" ?

If I remember correctly I think they explained away using Adam as Michael because they just needed someone from the bloodline, and Adam as John's son would have worked. Wasn't it something like that? I don't remember anything like that being said for Lucifer. Carver seems to either be ignorant or really ignoring canon. If they were asked about it I have to wonder how they'd try to explain it.. hmmm... would Castiel somehow be part of the bloodline... meh that would be weird :/

And yeah, Misha was trying way too hard with that...the exaggerated facial expressions especially. The one thing that did make me laugh was when Casifer said something about Castiel's "constipated expressions"... my thoughts exactly, lol
Yellowbulma: Sam WTFyellowbulma on February 21st, 2016 05:18 pm (UTC)
Re: meh
I know right?! When I saw asstiel was going to be in the new ep 11x14 and That Dean was once again getting to time travel while Sam AGAIN had to stay behind, I wasn't looking forward to it. The only thing I was looking forward to was Sam finding out that Lucifer was out and Lucifer trying to get Sam to say yes. But again this is Carver and canon means fuck all to him.

Yes Micheal's vessel had to be Sam's brother, of course Dean was who the angel's wanted but they had to make do with Adam.

Honestly I can't even find Misha's bad acting funny. S11 as been so good so far and that prick is ruining it. =/

Also once again Castiel fuck's up and once again Sam and Dean aren't mad and will forgive him "because he is Cas"