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06 April 2016 @ 10:26 pm
SPN #11x18 Hell's Angel (episode review)  
Here are my thoughts on this one...apologies in advance if they're not particularly glowing.

Sigh, we're back to the world of myth arc. I was not particularly impressed with this one. Maybe it's just after coming from all those awesome MOTW episodes that felt more old-school and had some great brother moments, and maybe my opinion will change slightly upon rewatch, but...nope, as it stands right now I'm not in love with this one.

Again, I hardly give two shits about the angel crap, and Casifer's attitude/mugging was again cringeworthy to me.

So Rowena actually isn't dead. When Casifer snapped her neck last time I did keep wondering if that was it. Something in the back of my mind kept nagging at me and thinking maybe she actually would be back somehow.

I was actually thinking "WTF???" during the part of the scene with Crowley & the boys when Dean wanted to get Lucifer out of Cas, especially when he suggested finding another vessel for Lucifer. I know he said that Cas is family or whatever (and THANK YOU Sam for bringing up that this was Cas' own choice!!) but that just kind of bugged me. I mean were they trying to show Dean's desperation? My mind started racing ahead to the possibility of that happening, and if they'd try to get Sam to be his vessel. I'd really hope that no one would ever suggest that (not even Sam himself).

This seems like one big mess. We've got Rowena working with Amara, Casifer against her but wanting to stay topside, Crowley against Casifer and of course the boys against both Casifer and Amara, although Sam suggests working with Casifer in a way so he can help them defeat Amara (which Crowley of course objects to).

And then Crowley gets into Casifer and it basically shows Cas as weak, sitting watching a tv and acting like he doesn't care about anything. I didn't expect Mark P to show up. Lucifer seems to have quite a hold on Cas. Dean tries to get through to him but even that doesn't work. In the end it sounds like Sam is trying to get him to accept that this is what Cas wanted to do, and then something about them operating that way from now on...about either accepting or not getting them to change what they want to do? Is this foreshadowing in a way? Makes me shudder to think about it...hopefully I'm overthinking it or possibly attributing it to what would end up being a different character.

I nearly cheered when Amara whisked Casifer away and then started torturing him, how bad is that? LOL. She seems to think God will show up. Does she know something we don't? And if God ever did show up, would she succeed in killing him? Would one of the Winchester boys end up sacrifice himself in such a scenario (eep, I hope not...again maybe I'm overthinking it...at least I hope I am).
Current Mood: blahblah
allaboutweather: pic#124968065allaboutweather on April 6th, 2016 11:45 pm (UTC)
So it's Rowena and Amara vs. Lucifer (in Cass) vs. Crowley (sorta) vs. Sam and Dean? Now this whole web's getting confusing! DX

At least Cass didn't explode this time with 2 vessels.

jessm78: Supernatural: AHBL Sam and Deanjessm78 on April 8th, 2016 08:05 pm (UTC)
That's what it sounds like to me, lol seems a bit hard to keep track!

Good point!
allaboutweather: pic#124968065allaboutweather on April 8th, 2016 08:50 pm (UTC)
It's like a supernatural Game of Thrones. XD
jessm78: Long Pondjessm78 on April 9th, 2016 12:46 pm (UTC)
LOL, it is!
allaboutweather: pic#124968065allaboutweather on April 6th, 2016 11:50 pm (UTC)
I betcha as soon as Casifer realized the Horn of Joshua wouldn't work against Amara, and as soon as she whisks him away, he was probably thinking "oh, fu-"
jessm78: Long Pondjessm78 on April 8th, 2016 08:05 pm (UTC)
LOL I bet he was!
percysownerpercysowner on April 7th, 2016 01:12 am (UTC)
I admit when Dean said they should get another vessel for Lucifer all I could think was "and what poor schmuck is going to get stuck doing that and HOW exactly are you going to talk them into saying yes?"
Lori DoriaLori Doria on April 8th, 2016 12:49 am (UTC)
I hate to even think it...but I'm afraid that Dean will be offering his own vessel/body. After all, sacrificing himself? it's what Dean does. (And then he and Sam will have *both* been possessed by Lucifer.)
jessm78: Long Pondjessm78 on April 8th, 2016 08:07 pm (UTC)
Have to admit my mind did kind of go there...
jessm78jessm78 on April 8th, 2016 08:07 pm (UTC)
My thoughts exactly! He really didn't think that through, did he? *shakes head*
Amy Cooperamycooper on April 11th, 2016 12:48 pm (UTC)

I thought, given Dean being Dean, that the new vessel Dean had in mind was himself. It's just the type of self-sacrificing thing Dean would do (and of course not tell Sam).

See, I've thought there was a really parallel between Castiel this season and the "Always Keep Fighting" thing they're doing in real life. Cas has depression and PTSD and thinks he is unloved/not important. Thus he has retreated into himself rather than fight. If I'm right, then getting Cas to fight would be a major part of defeating Amara.
jessm78: Long Pondjessm78 on April 11th, 2016 01:04 pm (UTC)
Actually, I'm glad you brought that up. I hadn't thought of it before, but I agree. I think I could see him doing that as well.

In that case, that scene inside Cas' head does make more sense... particularly if you think back to what happened in 11x10 leading up to him saying yes to Lucifer (especially when that other angel (gah - I can't remember her name right now) was talking to him about them being "worthless", or something to that effect).
Yellowbulmayellowbulma on April 11th, 2016 03:37 pm (UTC)
It wasn't the worst episode I mean there was no Charlie or Claire BUT I did want to punch Castiel in face more then normal. I mean Sam and Dean and even fucking Crowley are working to fix Castiel's balls up and Castiel is watching TV?!? Prick

OK good points.

Loved Jared's red shirt and new jacket. The building having AKF on it was a nice touch.

Glad Rowena isn't dead, I knew she was too smart for that. After all she is Crowley's mother and there's a reason she as lived so long. Liked seeing Amara again. Sam speaking Latin. Mark Pellegrino.

Bad points.

Castiel!Lucifer, is still fucking awful. Misha just isn't a good enough actor to carry it off. His face when he was making fun of Dean for saying Cas.....just gross.

Amara calling Lucifer God's 1st son?!? Really Carver I know you don't like canon and are trying (and failing) to be the new Eric but MICHEAL is the oldest and then Lucifer.

Amara hurting Castiel!Lucifer at the end was sweet too bad she didn't kill him. Like Carver will ever have the balls to do that and I guess J2 still need Misha to get time off.

All and all not one I would never watch again but I wouldn't be in a hurry to do it.

Now a 3 week wait....great