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27 October 2016 @ 10:31 pm
SPN #12x03 The Foundry (episode review)  
Not sure how many people even read my reviews anymore lol but here it is, for what it's worth...

Right off the bat I have to say that I liked this one a tad more than last week's. With the MOTW it felt more like an old school type episode, minus the Crowley/Cas and Lucifer stuff, anyway.

Mary has trouble fitting in, that's been more than obvious since the season premiere. She feels like she doesn't belong. She decides to cut her hair. Sam notices and she tells him she'd rather keep it short so it doesn't interfere with hunting and no monsters trying to grab her hair (though I'm sure Sam Smith was probably just happy to not have to wear the wig anymore). Dean says he's been telling Sam that for years now, which earns him a bitchface from Sam, lol. Just my personal opinion but don't listen to him, Sam. Your hair has been on point since the season started. :) As for Mary's hair, being thrown into the present from 1983, how did she decide upon an asymmetrical bob type haircut? Unless she saw pics in a magazine or just observed other women's hair while out and about...

The Cas/Crowley stuff was meh... Agents Beyoncé and Jay-Z? Really? Reminds me of that ep from S5 when Dean & Sam went their separate ways & Cas tried way too hard to act as an agent. Nice fake-out by Rowena casting the spell to make Lucifer's vessel's decay accelerate (from Keith Richards stage to Iggy Pop stage, LOL). I was wondering at the end of last episode if she was actually going to be in cahoots with him, but that doesn't appear to be the case. So Lucifer is at the bottom of some ocean now? If Vince is basically decayed now is he going to have to find a new vessel? I thought we'd see more of Rick Springfield but who knows, I guess. Seems like Rowena will want to work with the two of them to get rid of Lucifer, though I'm still not totally sure what she's up to...

Getting back to the MOTW part... So Mary has put together her own hunt. Poor Sam having to sit in the back seat of the car. And when Dean puts the classic rock on (hey, nice to hear at least a few seconds of it! I'd complain more but we know the classic rock budget of the show has sucked since S3 anyway, so...) she turns it up even more! I liked when she introduced them agents...Shirley Partridge and agents Cassidy and Bonaduce? LOL

The whole story was a bit sad, how the father of that girl who was killed tried to bury himself alive and starve in that house, and then basically took on the kids from those other families that lived there as his own.

I liked how the boys did get to talk about Mom here and there, how Sam noticed that something is bothering her and she's trying to immerse herself in hunting to take her kind off it. Dean plays dumb and asks how he knows. Sam says "Years of personal experience...like mother, like sons." He couldn't be more right, though I do definitely see some parallels between her and Dean. I'm probably thinking too deeply about this, but have they been trying to convey for some time that Dean is a lot like Mom and Sam is more like Dad (especially as far as not being into the hunting life at first and then getting dragged into it...John when Mary was killed and Sam when Jess was killed)?

Finally when they get back to the bunker, they talk about the case and Mary seems overwhelmed by what happened when she was possessed by the ghost of the dad. It's not only that but the whole idea of being overwhelmed by her situation is also bringing things to a head and she decides to leave. She says she needs some time, so I guess we will see her come back at some point. The looks on the boys' faces as she leaves, though...aww, I want to hug them both so badly. :(

So that's my review. I liked it more than last week's at least the MOTW part. Felt more old school with the EMFs, salt & burn, use of iron to repel the spirits. Good stuff.
 
 
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lipglosskaz: dean sam work to do animkazluvsbooks on October 28th, 2016 05:02 am (UTC)

Yes, i liked this ep too, at least the Winchesters talked about stuff..and the MOTW ep was good!!
jessm78jessm78 on October 28th, 2016 12:32 pm (UTC)
Yes!! I loved that we saw them talking more, glad I'm not the only one who liked it! :)
Liliaethliliaeth on October 28th, 2016 07:00 am (UTC)

I worry that they'll end up making Mary Lucifer's next vessel. No spoilers, just speculation.

jessm78jessm78 on October 28th, 2016 12:32 pm (UTC)
I hadn't really thought about that but I'm glad you brought that up. It's not totally out of the question and yeah, it does make me worry a bit.
jennyjennygeee on October 28th, 2016 05:05 pm (UTC)
I really liked the episode, even the Cas, Crowley, Lucifer and Rowena bits, it had a nice flow to it and didn't feel at all disjointed which has happened a lot in previous seasons.
jessm78jessm78 on October 31st, 2016 03:08 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I did notice the episode flowed very well, definitely scores some more points with me. Hopefully they can keep that up... I'm with you, the disjointed feel from previous seasons kinda bugged me.
Yellowbulma: Sam cute smileyellowbulma on October 30th, 2016 03:24 pm (UTC)
This ep was so much better then last weeks mess. Really though they need to get rid of those writers from 12x02.

The MOTW was good and had some creepy moments and scenes.

The Sam, Dean and Mary plot was interesting and unlike last week, they didn't get screwed over by showing too much of the side characters story instead.

If the writers keep the balance with the main characters plot (Sam and Dean of course) and the side characters plot like this, I will be happy. The side plot should never get more time then the main and in this ep it actual worked/felt more natural switching between the two.


I actual found the Castiel/Crowley scenes funny. I like Crowley/Castiel so much better then Crowley/Dean or Castiel/Dean. The only thing that was alittle annoying was the music they kept playing everytime Castiel/Crowley did something funny. Just off putting.

Also don't know whats going on with Misha but just rewatch the scene where Castiel mocks Crowley about the Rowena thing. He sound's/acts just like Casifer. Maybe he played him for too long last season?

Rowena was fucking awesome. Glad that she saved her self and I guess this mean Lucifer will have yet another new vessel. Was hoping Rick was staying around a bit longer but we will see.

That random scene where Dean looks at the bike and says it's nice or cool was kinda random but there's been talk on Tumblr how that bike could be the tattoo MOL's guy following the boy's.

Mary leaving was heart breaking but I think its a good thing because so much as happened to her and of course she needs time to deal.

Also it works better for the show (my opinion) because as much as I'm loving Mary. Her being around does effect Sam and Dean and their story. So Mary leaving (come on she's going to be back in like an ep.) will give us some Sam and Dean and something else to focus on.

Side note I liked how Mary seeing the doll in the crib reminded her of Sammy in his crib, I mean he was the last thing she saw alive. =(

I just really need a Sam/Mary, demon blood/YED talk.

EDIT BTW Jess I will always comment on your reviews!! It just takes me longer now cause I'm not active on LJ anymore but I haven't forgotten about you!!

Edited at 2016-10-30 03:27 pm (UTC)
percysownerpercysowner on October 30th, 2016 04:49 pm (UTC)
Unfortunately one of the writers from last week is married to Executive Producer Robert Singer, so they aren't going anywhere. Too bad, because they really don't measure up.
Yellowbulmayellowbulma on October 30th, 2016 04:58 pm (UTC)
Sadly thats thats very true

jessm78jessm78 on October 31st, 2016 03:08 pm (UTC)
Yeah, not happy about that. They've been pretty bad from day 1 with Route 666 (that was their first episode, wasn't it?).
Yellowbulmayellowbulma on October 31st, 2016 08:10 pm (UTC)
I think so. Yeah they are very clearly the weakest writers on the show but with her being the wife of Singer she wont be going anywhere.

Thats hope this is their only ep this season and now its out of the way
percysownerpercysowner on October 31st, 2016 09:03 pm (UTC)
AFAIK they always get episode 21 at least when we have had 23 episode seasons. There is some confusion as to whether we get 22 or 23 this season. The producers say 23, the CW says 22. So they may get episode 20 this year.
jessm78jessm78 on October 31st, 2016 03:19 pm (UTC)
Agreed! I really did like this one a lot better than the previous episode.

From your keyboard to Chuck's ears, hon ;) I really hope they can keep up this balance but again, I'll keep my expectations low.

Honestly, that's a good point and I'd much rather see Castiel and Crowley paired up instead of those other pairings (especially Dean/Castiel). They have better interaction definitely. Lol, that annoying incidental music! I wasn't thrilled with that either.

You're right!! I was thinking that as I was watching it and saying "Wait, he sounds like Casifer there, what is going on??" Castiel never acted like that. Maybe Misha was too used to playing him...IDK that was weird.

Rowena was pretty badass there, I liked seeing that. I was surprised about Rick though, I thought his character was going to be Lucifer's vessel for a bit longer. There was that episode (I don't want to spoil too much, I don't know if you saw those filming pics from about a month ago where Jensen is wearing a leather jacket and Jared had a black denim (?) jacket on, but it looked like they could have been at a rock concert or something... I thought maybe Rick's character would have still been in that episode as Lucifer but maybe not).

Oh good catch, that totally escaped me... I haven't been following anything spoilery on Tumblr (actually I haven't been there for a few days), but that sounds possible.

I agree, I think Mary needs the time away to deal with all this overwhelming stuff. As much as I liked her interaction with both boys, they do need to be able to focus on something else, especially if the MOL people are still going to be following them.

Oh wow...yes, I'm really glad you mentioned that. That was such a poignant scene.

Aw I know hon, I wasn't really talking about you :) There used to be quite a few people commenting but now there's only just a few. Maybe it just reflects the fact that not many people on LJ seem to discuss SPN much anymore?
MoSinging1986: TV swells brainsmosinging1986 on November 10th, 2016 12:06 am (UTC)
I will be reading them once I catch up! Real Life has destroyed me this year. I haven't even seen the final 3 eps of S11. I am re-watching all of S11 on Netflix to refresh my memory.

Stupid RL, messing up my TV watching!

*shakes fist*