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03 November 2016 @ 10:37 pm
SPN #12x04 American Nightmare (episode review)  
Before I start this review I apologize if any of this sounds incoherent or if I'm making too big a deal out of anything. That said...

I did like the more old school feel to this episode and the hearkening back to the special kids.

However, I did have an issue with several things.

First, I'm still kind of unsure if the writers were giving a big old "F you" to religion in portraying the family - or the mother at the very least - as a crackpot. Yes, she was a crackpot to go to the lengths she did in making Magda self-flagellate and all that, and in planning to kill them all by poisoning dinner. Not only that, but when she was talking to Sam about them not saving Magda from dying of illness (even though it turned out to be a big, fat lie anyway) and because it was God's will or whatever. Okay, now I'm Catholic and consider myself a fairly religious person (and I really hope no one hates me for that :/), but I certainly don't condone that. Sam's comment about God not caring how you live your life...Maybe it just bothers me more because my ex-husband had said things very similar to that to me and he would mock me in a mean way even for going to church (he was verbally/emotionally abusive in other ways too). I guess that's why I take it a bit more personally than I should, but it almost seems like this show is almost going out of its way to make a statement about religion and I wish they wouldn't. I know they did a similar thing back in S1 with Faith, but this just felt more blatant, at least with Sam's comment. I do agree with him that God didn't kill her daughter, she did (even though, again, it turned out to be a lie anyway). Geez I hope no one hates me for saying all this. :(

The other thing that didn't sit well with me was the stupid British MOL guy on the motorcycle killing Magda at the end. I know looking back we should probably expect that after what Toni said to Sam but I still didn't like it.

What I did like.... Boys dressed as priests again, boys dressed in nice outfits impersonating child protective services, boys talking a bit about mom and Sam seeming to actually kinda like Vince the rocker (the "...it was the eighties" thing and Dean's reaction...lol).

Also, Sam getting through to Magda when she was about to stab her mother in the chest, and sympathizing with her over the special powers thing, even though he admitted he doesn't have them anymore.

Finally I liked that Dean got an answer from Mary and she told him he should call her Mom, that she'll always be Mom to them and they are her boys. :) Looks like Dean feels better about that (it was actually a bit sad when he texted her earlier asking if he should call her Mom or Mary).

I guess that's about it. I did kind of like the episode even with that one issue I had (maybe it won't bother me as much when I rewatch, but again that comment of Sam's reminded me a lot of my abusive ex, so maybe that's part of the reason why I bristled when he said it). I just hope they're not trying to say that all religious people (to whatever extent) are crackpots. I'd hate anyone to think that I am, though I guess I should stop worrying so much about what others think of me... *sigh*
 
 
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allaboutweather: pic#124968065allaboutweather on November 4th, 2016 03:01 am (UTC)
I never knew you had an abusive ex-husband. So sorry you had to go through that. :(

It sorta seemed a bit like Carrie. Girl has special powers, her mom thinks she's the devil, and both girls are friendless.

The ending though..... was that guy from that group that one British lady was in?
jessm78: Long Pondjessm78 on November 4th, 2016 11:05 pm (UTC)
Aw, thanks. I had no idea he was that way, he totally changed after we got married. Luckily he wasn't physically abusive, but emotionally it still hurt a lot. I had to leave to preserve my sanity.

That's a really good point actually, towards the end I was thinking it reminded me a bit of Carrie.

I think it was him. There was something about him having a motorcycle and in the last episode, there was some little nod to it in a scene (I can't remember exactly where in the episode it was) when Dean sees the motorcycle there and says something like "Nice bike."
allaboutweather: pic#124968065allaboutweather on November 5th, 2016 05:17 am (UTC)
It's unfortunate when the person you marry is totally different from the person you first met. *hugs* :(
jessm78: Long Pondjessm78 on November 11th, 2016 12:51 am (UTC)
Thanks for the hugs. :) *hugs back* (and sorry about the late reply, been pretty busy over the past few days!) Yeah, I felt pretty betrayed, though getting away from him was the best thing I did and now I know to look for the warning signs in the future.
allaboutweather: pic#124968065allaboutweather on November 11th, 2016 01:58 am (UTC)
Ah.

The next time you see someone like your ex, RUN, don't walk away.
percysownerpercysowner on November 4th, 2016 04:07 am (UTC)
I didn't think they were necessarily totally against religion. There was no judgement of the Catholic priest and the father seemed to be acceding to his wife's demands about Magda. I thought that the mother was pretty typical until the accident, which she blamed on Magda. Even then it wasn't until she was addicted to pain killers that she "heard God" and found religion. I took it more as an hallucination from the drugs, plus blaming her daughter for her injuries.

I'm not religious so I can't speak for how God views our actions. In the world or Supernatural Sam and Dean have met God and he literally doesn't care how people act. In that world, we don't know how the decisions for Heaven and Hell were made. I'm having trouble remembering anyone who went to Hell without making a deal with a demon or being hijacked by a rouge Reaper (I hated that episode). I think at some point Zachariah indicated they let some people who had done bad things in because they decided to. Sam was actually speaking from having met God and knowing that, nope he doesn't care. I take this as a fictional universe and they were simply playing with the rules the universe had already established. Just my opinion. I'm sorry that it distressed you.
jessm78jessm78 on November 4th, 2016 01:22 pm (UTC)
Honestly, thank you so much for your very reasoned comment. I've met people who were either not religious or atheists and were kind of nasty to me. I know they're not all like that, but I happened to have the bad luck of meeting the less-than-pleasant ones.

After rewatching it and thinking on it some more, it doesn't bother me as much as it did. You're absolutely right about the Catholic priest and looking back on the mother, it does kind of make sense the way she acted after the accident would be blamed on the drugs.

I also looked back on Sam and Dean meeting God (aka Chuck) and I could see Sam being somewhat pissed and thinking that he doesn't care. I made the mistake of thinking he was talking about God in our own universe, not the Supernatural one. There it makes total sense. I can't believe I made that error. I guess I'm so hung up on different TV shows trying to convey certain "messages" and assumed that's what they were doing. But they obviously weren't doing that. You're absolutely right that it should be taken as a fictional universe.

I want to thank you again for your very reasoned comment. I feel pretty stupid now for that rant.
percysownerpercysowner on November 4th, 2016 04:35 pm (UTC)
Don't feel stupid about the rant. I do it a lot in my head. It's good to get it out.
jessm78: Long Pondjessm78 on November 4th, 2016 11:06 pm (UTC)
Thanks. :) And I agree, it really does help.
ghostly_house: Inalienableghostly_house on November 11th, 2016 12:18 am (UTC)
Hello! A friend of yours (allaboutweather) passed your name along to me. We seem to have some interests in common. The show Supernatural, for one. I joined your community Sammyhair. Also, conservatism, hopefully? My journal is fairly new. I am a huge horror fan, but enjoy thrillers and some sci-fi and fantasy movies and TV shows as well.

I hope we can be friends!

(P.S. Apologies for commenting on your post like this. I tried sending a PM but I'm a bit technically inept.)
jessm78: American Flagjessm78 on November 11th, 2016 12:49 am (UTC)
Hey, nice to meet ya! Yes, definitely Supernatural and conservatism! I'm always happy to make new friends (especially like-minded ones). I just friended you. :)

Oh, no worries! Actually, I don't think you would have been able to PM me anyway. After being harassed by a few people on here, I had to change my settings so that only people on my friends list could send PMs. I may change it back though since those people are now gone.
ghostly_house: Inalienableghostly_house on November 11th, 2016 01:40 am (UTC)
Nice to meet you too! It's so wonderful also to make new friends, between you and allaboutweather. I look forward to getting to know both of you!

Oh, okay, I thought it was me. Sorry you had that problem.

I'll endeavor to go back and get caught up on reading your posts. I'm more Walking Dead oriented, but I very much enjoy Supernatural too.

Thank you for the friending, and for being an ally post election.