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08 December 2016 @ 10:19 pm
SPN #12x08 Lotus (episode review)  
Another episode jammed with...stuff. Lol. Here are my thoughts...

Let me first say that anyone reading this and hoping to find some snarky comments on parallels to real life, I'm sorry to disappoint you (actually maybe I'm not, because IMO there's been a politics overload this year as it is and I don't feel compelled to contribute to that...hope that's okay). To be honest, I liked how they made the President character kind of original and didn't see any nods to anyone in particular (YMMV, of course, but I personally didn't).

I don't hold this particular duo of writers in high esteem, but I did think they did a good job showing how powerful and terrifying Lucifer is, especially when he was possessing the archbishop.

The British MOL show up again. This guy seems not as insane as Toni was. Why did Sam try to contact them, though? If it was to get their help in going after Lucifer, I guess that makes sense.

I liked how caring Sam was with Kelly, trying to calm her when they explained that she was pregnant with Lucifer's baby. Of course Cas didn't have the same luck later and she left. To her it doesn't matter that she's pregnant with a monster, it's still her baby. Um, stupid much? Are they going to revisit this and once she has the baby is it going to be the next monster they'll have to deal with?

I'm not sure how easy it was for them to trap Lucifer in that egg thing. Did they actually succeed? It looked like Lucifer escaped into the grating in the floor... Did I miss something there? I don't think it was the smartest thing for the boys to linger there with the President. Once they saw he was alive maybe they should have high-tailed it out of there, or would it not have made any difference? So now they're going to jail apparently. And I guess we have to wait till January 26th to find out how they'll get out. Anyone got any theories?
Current Mood: contemplativecontemplative
KCS: pic#95008184kcscribbler on December 9th, 2016 09:26 am (UTC)

Just got to watch it myself, several hours late. I think the egg thing was supposed to blast him back to the cage like an exorcism does a demon, hence the disappearing into the floor (like demon smoke does after an exorcism); not getting trapped in the egg but rather the egg as a conduit for the energy pulse. As to the rest, yeah - they should know their luck is crap and should have gotten the heck out while they could. Not very kind of the woman to not vouch for them either, though I guess she really can't without a lot of weird explaining the president probably won't believe. :/

jessm78jessm78 on December 9th, 2016 10:33 am (UTC)
I think the egg thing was supposed to blast him back to the cage like an exorcism does a demon, hence the disappearing into the floor (like demon smoke does after an exorcism); not getting trapped in the egg but rather the egg as a conduit for the energy pulse.

Oh, okay, that would make sense then. So I wonder if Lucifer is really back in the cage then. Could this woman's nephelim be the next big bad they'd have to worry about? A lot to ponder, though I guess some of it will get answered possibly in the next episode.

As for the rest, I totally agree.
percysownerpercysowner on December 10th, 2016 12:17 am (UTC)
The egg thing was supposed to drive a possessing demon out of a body. they tried to tweak it so it would drive an angel out of a body. Rowena said she could send Lucifer back to Hell, but only if he wasn't in a vessel at the time. So the egg (supposedly) drove Lucifer from his vessel and kept him from escaping the room. Then Rowena used her spell to send him back to the Cage. What with Lucifer screaming that he wasn't done with Sam yet, I can't say I'm convinced it worked, but that was what we were supposed to take from all that. I think.
jessm78jessm78 on December 10th, 2016 01:18 pm (UTC)
Oh okay, that makes a lot of sense. Thanks for the explanation. I admit that Lucifer screaming that at Sam kind of concerns me. Would he try to get Sam to say yes to him again? I always thought he knew Sam would never willingly do that again, unless that's the point - that he would try to trick him into doing it or maybe by the "I'm not done with you yet" part he could try to mess with someone close to Sam. Maybe I'm overthinking it, lol.

I actually saw a theory that said part of Lucifer's essence may have gone into one of the Secret Service guys (Rick I think was his name?), and that maybe Sam suspects this based on the look he exchanged with the guy when they were going out to the transport. I have to look at that scene again, but I'm wondering if that's possible.
Yellowbulma: Sam - It's on bitch.yellowbulma on December 15th, 2016 06:31 pm (UTC)
Sorry for late comment but finally made myself watch this crap and I have had no desire to talk about it.

The only thing worth talking about is Sam vs Lucifer and winning again and Dean calling out Sam's name in concern.

Everything else was meh or just dumb.

Also so much for Castiel being like S4 Castiel. He keeps fucking up and the boy's always pay for it.

If Mary in 12x09 tell's Castiel it;s not his fault or he did his best etc I will scream. Thats have Castiel for fucking once be pulled for his shit.

Sigh and Sam and Dean getting dumbed down by staying behind why? Oh yeah to get caught. At LEAST they are together this time and it's not just Sam.

Im hating the baby drama already but want do you expect from the worst two writers on the show?

Also those two writers have such a hard on for non-con. Sam/Toni bitch in 12x02 and now this chick getting knocked up with the devil's kid
jessm78: Supernatural: Sam pouting (3x06)jessm78 on December 16th, 2016 10:45 am (UTC)
No worries hon, I didn't really care for this ep myself so I can understand how hard it'd be to watch it ;)

Castiel really bugged me in this ep too. The boys got caught at the end and wtf was he even doing?? And then letting that girl get away? *smh*

Oh gosh I hope they don't pull that. I'll end up bashing my head against the TV set lol

I seriously thought it was one of the stupidest things they've made the boys do. It pretty much ranks up there with the way they were dumbed down in S3 when they had the run-ins with Bela...maybe even worse than that.

I cringed when I saw who wrote this episode. I hope they won't be writing too many more this season. *sigh*
Yellowbulmayellowbulma on December 17th, 2016 02:56 pm (UTC)
Yeah so much for Castiel being badass and useful again. S4 Castiel my ass. Also the writers having him shout assbutt all the bloody time isn't character development.

Yes that's why I hated Charlie-sue and Bela any character or writer that dumbs Sam and Dean down can fuck off.

Sadly hon I have been told that these dummies are writering maybe two more ep's. I hope it's not true
mosinging1986 on December 16th, 2016 07:48 pm (UTC)
I am hiding from reviews because I STILL haven't been able to watch the S11 finale. But I did skim the first bit of this review and it looks like a positive thing?

I came across some fanvid that had some snarky talk about real life politics. (I ended up not watching the vid so as not to be spoiled.)

Anyway, I got terrified that Show will be shoving real life politics in my face. That's the one thing I've always appreciated about this show, that it hasn't done that. I'd hate to think that's changed!
jessm78jessm78 on December 17th, 2016 01:37 pm (UTC)
Yeah, as far as the real life politics aspect goes, I went into it expecting some snarky in-jokes, jabs, cheap shots, things like that but was pleasantly surprised. I've never been a fan of this writing team, but I do give them kudos for that.

Oh geez, I can just imagine. I guess if it's not actually in the episode, they have to make up for it somehow.

I'm the same way. They've made a few comments here and there in the past which have annoyed me, but they were brief and it didn't seem like they were trying to hit you over the head with it constantly.