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16 February 2017 @ 11:41 pm
SPN #12x12 Stuck in the Middle (with You) (episode review)  
I'm posting this later than usual because I was out at a business dinner meeting that went on later than I expected ...luckily I DVR'd the show. Apologies if I missed some things, I'm just exhausted...

I admit I was kind of confused by the pacing of this episode, the cutting back and forth with the scenes, the "oh wait, let's go back a bit and show what happened at this point" style. But again I guess my brain was just addled from that long meeting and I maybe if I go back and watch again it won't bother me as much. I was also wondering what was up with the background music, although I guess it tied in with the song our "special guest" was singing at the end.

I'm also a bit confused as to how that Remiel (Ramiel?) was in possession of the Colt in the first place. It's been forever since I did a rewatch of all the SPN seasons, but can someone refresh my memory? Did Crowley get it at some point? I know in the flashback Crowley gave him that spear of Michael in exchange for his crown (and thus becoming King of Hell), but where did the Colt figure into this? I guess it's time for me to do a rewatch back to season 6/7...

The British MOL have pissed Mary off...wonder what's going to happen now as far as that goes.

I knew Cas would be revived somehow. I've got nothing to say really on that whole thing, although some spoilers/speculation I've heard has really got me wondering about a few things...

Awesome little appearance by Lucifer at the end in the cage. Crowley must love it that the tables are now turned. Does anyone think Lucifer's goading is going to somehow get Crowley to turn against the boys?

That's about all I've got. I'm way too exhausted now to get any deeper into this. Oh, and I still hate Angsty Archie for taking away the promos. :P
Current Mood: exhaustedexhausted
KCS: pic#95008184kcscribbler on February 17th, 2017 09:08 am (UTC)

It wasn't you, the pacing bugged me too. It's nice to see them trying new things, because after 12 years I think you have to, but it drove me nuts.

I thought the Colt was what was in the box Crowley gave him along with the lance, although why the heck it was suddenly glowing idk. That title card said 6 years ago, which is just after Swan Song and right about when it dropped off the map, right?

vyperdd: AKFcandlevyperdd on February 17th, 2017 10:49 am (UTC)
Re: The Colt. Back in s5 in Abandon All Hope (Crowley's 1st episode) he gives the colt to Sam and Dean to kill Lucifer. Dean tries and fails, Lucifer flings him, he drops the colt and Cas zaps Dean and Sam to safety. This ep establishes that Crowley then retrieved the colt before passing it onto Ramiel. Crowley has the line in 1212 along the lines of "It's amazing what some people will just leave lying around." which I took to referring to him finding the Colt.

I did like that each time a scene was repeated we learnt a little more info or saw it from a different POV. But yeah, even on 2nd watch it was still pretty hard to follow even with the title cards.

While I wasn't worried that Cas would die, it's the first time in a very long time where I've felt any sort of real emotion for him beyond boredom and irritation. I really enjoyed how Misha played the hurt/dying scenes and I loved his speech as well.

I'm always happy to have Lucifer back as long as it's Mark playing him. He does such a fantastic job.
allaboutweather: pic#124968065allaboutweather on February 17th, 2017 10:32 pm (UTC)
I felt the same way about the pacing.

Yeah, I thought Cas was about to die.... again.
Yellowbulma: Sam - It's on bitch.yellowbulma on February 20th, 2017 05:03 pm (UTC)
I have never seen the two films the writers where paying homage too so I found the opening and how they kept going back and forward abit off putting, Red meat did it better.

For a Castiel ep it was good.

Though Mary is on my shit list now and she better get it together.

Castiel was dying and the monster they where fighting seemed unbeatable at the time and all he wanted was the gun back and Mary STILL didn't say anything.

Also that scene when Sam was trying to have a moment with Mary (honestly I found it strange how Sam would talk about Mary not wanting this life at that moment but whatever.) and she was such a cold heart bitch to him. Like really?! They are their because of her and she has to just fob him off.

Mary panicking over the demon having Yellow eyes and talking to Sam about it seemed like the perfect time (later when the guy was dead.) for Sam and Mary to finally talk but I really don't think it's going to happen. =(

Sigh Crowley was great I did miss him and Sam killing the MOTW was sweet too.

I don't hate Mary or want her dead but her working with the bastards that hurt Sam and was going to kill them all and STILL giving them the gun after what happened is just dumb.

I hope when the boy's found out they are pissed. Or the writers DON'T just have Dean be pissed while Sam is ONCE AGAIN just understanding and not allowed to show any emotion.

Next week the stupid Lucifer baby storyline......go away

Edited at 2017-02-20 08:08 pm (UTC)
percysownerpercysowner on February 20th, 2017 06:21 pm (UTC)
Actually, Mary thinks she is working for the organization that realized that an employee had gone off the reservation and tortured her kids, and that organization then sent in the men she is working with to save Sam and Dean. She thinks she is working for an organization that Sam and Dean turned to to get equipment to send Lucifer back to the Cage. She thinks she's working for an organization that helped her find Sam and Dean after she and Cas had no clues after searching for them for six weeks.

I'm hoping that when Ketch asked if he could see the Colt that it meant that Mary was not turning it over to the BMOL and was keeping it for herself. It's not likely, but she might want to retain possession of such a powerful weapon.

I do hope that Sam gets to be angry once all is revealed, but I'm not going to hold my breath. Sam doesn't get to do angry.

Yellowbulmayellowbulma on February 20th, 2017 07:00 pm (UTC)
Yes Mr Ketch and the other guy (can't remember his name.) weren't the ones that hurt Sam etc etc but I still think it's dumb that after what happened she's want anything to do with the BMOL (and yes I wasn't happy with Sam when they had him call Mr Ketch too.)

I was hoping she was just letting on to work for them but now that's she actual handed over the gun. It's unlikely.

Someone on tumblr made a good point that it could be because Mary want's American to be like England (have no monsters) so she's willing to do anything and thinks the BMOL's are the key to that. And I get it I really do and I still like Mary. I just wish we got to understand her more because she's coming across right now as cold and uncaring to the boy's.

I think the BMOL's is going to fuck her over one more time and then she will finale get a clue.

YES!!! Please that Sam be allowed to have a reaction and emotion and not just be understanding (which I love but it's also a way to push Sam out of the way.) soundboard saying he understands etc etc.